Watering a baobab tree

How is it with Baobab and air humidity? As mentioned I keep my Baobab inside my apartment, with unknown humidity level. I have an air humidifier that I plan to place next to my Baobab, to give it some moisture. Would this be a good or bad idea? Would the leaves enjoy it? Or could it harm my "tree" in any way?

Plantfever wrote:
I've had mine almost a year, and it is still only a few cm.
If you have any tips or advice on how you've had it grown so fast, I will be very thankful to receive them. : )

An interesting observation I have made this year:

I have planted 10 of my seedlings in the garden this year and kept a few in the pots to see what the difference would be. I have kept the seedlings in full sun in the warmest part of my garden close to a warm wall and the seedlings were planted in a lower cooler area in between my Amaryllis. With the first cooler weather we had about a month ago the trees in the pot stopped growing and leaves started to turn yellow. All my trees in pots are now leafless and I have moved them under the carport where they receive morning to midday sun. The trees in the garden kept on growing to about two weeks ago. They did not receive any water from the time of the first cold. Today they are still green with only a few lower leaves showing yellow. The trees in the garden have grown also much faster than the trees in the pot.

My thinking is that the soil in the garden takes longer to cool down and that the temperature of the growing medium have a big influence on the growth rate of these trees. I also recall a lady bringing a tree to a club meeting at the coldest time of the year and the tree was in full growth - and she watered it right through the year. She kept the tree in the living room where it received full winter sun and the air conditioner kept the temperature of the room at 26 degrees Celcius during winter.

My theory is that if you can get the soil temperature above 25 degrees Celcius and keep it there the tree will grow much faster. The ideal temperature(proven) for seeds to germinate is 28 degrees Celcius. With temperatures like this the trees can be watered and fed regularly for faster growth.

I do have a heating pad used for snakes, maybe I must experiment to see if I can get one of the trees out of winter sleep.

Maybe someone can confirm my theory?

Lennard

Conny wrote:How is it with Baobab and air humidity? As mentioned I keep my Baobab inside my apartment, with unknown humidity level. I have an air humidifier that I plan to place next to my Baobab, to give it some moisture. Would this be a good or bad idea? Would the leaves enjoy it? Or could it harm my "tree" in any way?

The trees do come from tropical regions when it comes to temperature but the rainfall and humidity in these areas are quite low. Where you live I think the humidity will be enough.

Lennard

lennard wrote:

Plantfever wrote:
I've had mine almost a year, and it is still only a few cm.
If you have any tips or advice on how you've had it grown so fast, I will be very thankful to receive them. : )

An interesting observation I have made this year:

I have planted 10 of my seedlings in the garden this year and kept a few in the pots to see what the difference would be. I have kept the seedlings in full sun in the warmest part of my garden close to a warm wall and the seedlings were planted in a lower cooler area in between my Amaryllis. With the first cooler weather we had about a month ago the trees in the pot stopped growing and leaves started to turn yellow. All my trees in pots are now leafless and I have moved them under the carport where they receive morning to midday sun. The trees in the garden kept on growing to about two weeks ago. They did not receive any water from the time of the first cold. Today they are still green with only a few lower leaves showing yellow. The trees in the garden have grown also much faster than the trees in the pot.

My thinking is that the soil in the garden takes longer to cool down and that the temperature of the growing medium have a big influence on the growth rate of these trees. I also recall a lady bringing a tree to a club meeting at the coldest time of the year and the tree was in full growth - and she watered it right through the year. She kept the tree in the living room where it received full winter sun and the air conditioner kept the temperature of the room at 26 degrees Celcius during winter.

My theory is that if you can get the soil temperature above 25 degrees Celcius and keep it there the tree will grow much faster. The ideal temperature(proven) for seeds to germinate is 28 degrees Celcius. With temperatures like this the trees can be watered and fed regularly for faster growth.

I do have a heating pad used for snakes, maybe I must experiment to see if I can get one of the trees out of winter sleep.

Maybe someone can confirm my theory?

Lennard

Hi Lennard,

I think you are right about the temperature. It is kind of hard to maintain that temperature here where I live and i think that is the great reason for why it hasnt grown so much. After all, the tree is in wrong part of the world, comparing the weather in Sweden-Africa. I will try some heating solutions and see if that helps. I thank you for sharing your thoughts about your observation and all your advice and tips.

lennard wrote:
The trees do come from tropical regions when it comes to temperature but the rainfall and humidity in these areas are quite low. Where you live I think the humidity will be enough.

Lennard

I´ve borrowed a hygrometer, and it messures between 30-40%, depending on temperature and time of day, sounds okey? Temperature is between 25-30C in the window when sunlight.

About light, right now I add extra light with a lamp (bigger one is coming up), how many hours a day is okay to have it on? As of now, I turn it on 9am and kill it 23pm, is that to many hours?

Another thing, my Baobab leans quite heavy. End of last year I supported it with a stick to straighten it up, but this season I´ve removed the stick. However, I can´t decide what is the better choice here? My thought for this year was that the tree might grow weak if it grows with support? But the leaning bothers me visually. Thoughts?

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Thanks!

Conny wrote:How is it with Baobab and air humidity? As mentioned I keep my Baobab inside my apartment, with unknown humidity level. I have an air humidifier that I plan to place next to my Baobab, to give it some moisture. Would this be a good or bad idea? Would the leaves enjoy it? Or could it harm my "tree" in any way?

In my experience, humidity doesn't have any enormous effect. My oldest baobab (from 2003) started life in Washington DC area - WAAAY too cold, of course, for outdoor overwintering, but it did perfectly well in the humid Summers. I gave this baobab to a neighbor when I moved away; after a year or two, he mailed it to me when I lived in Phoenix. It lived most of the year outdoors with virtually NO humidity. No big difference in the health of the plant... And now this lovely specimen of mine lives in Kentucky and still seems indifferent to humidity levels. When I bring it in for the Fall/Winter, it does tend to get spider mites as the humidity goes down, but this is when the leaves are falling off anyway (I don't water it in late Fall/Winter). I have yet to determine whether high humidity and cold conditions cause any problems... I suspect that's one combination you'd want to avoid.

As for light: Mine mostly just gets natural light now... when it was younger (ah, they grow up so fast, don't they?) I would put it under lights on a 12:12 schedule. How much of the year are you able to keep it outside?

As for the leaning: meh, looks like a healthy tree. As long as it doesn't get etiolated, it shouldn't need support. And it looks old enough that this isn't an ongoing concern. Hey, that baobab of yours could make an AWESOME bunjin...

redbeard wrote:As for light: Mine mostly just gets natural light now... when it was younger (ah, they grow up so fast, don't they?) I would put it under lights on a 12:12 schedule. How much of the year are you able to keep it outside?

As for the leaning: meh, looks like a healthy tree. As long as it doesn't get etiolated, it shouldn't need support. And it looks old enough that this isn't an ongoing concern. Hey, that baobab of yours could make an AWESOME bunjin...

Unfortunately I keep it inside all year round, I have no garden and no balcony. Also, I live in Sweden, would be tricky to keep it outdoors any time of year as warm nights (over 10C) is no guarantee here.

I have no bonsai-thoughts for my tree (just happened to find this forum and thread), I want it to grow big, as big as it can get indoors. It´s one year old (soon), and 70 cm tall right now.

Conny wrote:

Unfortunately I keep it inside all year round, I have no garden and no balcony. Also, I live in Sweden, would be tricky to keep it outdoors any time of year as warm nights (over 10C) is no guarantee here.
I have no bonsai-thoughts for my tree (just happened to find this forum and thread), I want it to grow big, as big as it can get indoors. It´s one year old (soon), and 70 cm tall right now.

I see. You want it big... If you want a big fat plant, you could try cutting it back severely every year or two and exposing a little more root each time... I've done that before and the result is a wonderfully chunky form. It sounds like you want it tall too... There may just be a limit to what can be done given your climate/conditions. I have grown (and killed ) quite a few baobabs; what happens when I try to get them to maximum height is that during the Winter dry spell, the very tip top of the plant will dry up and die. The plant as a whole will be just fine, just the very tip is affected. Then when it starts growing and greening up, it will want to branch out a bit. From this point its rate of upward growth slows a bit. I suppose if you are able to maintain favorable growing conditions year-round, you may be able to prevent this.

As for keeping it outside: I have let mine remain outside a few times when it dropped below 50F, but I only did this in more recent years when the tree was large. I know of a baobab on the campus of the University of Arizona that has been able to withstand light snows... But this is a very large tree, planted in the ground.

sorry to jump in so late. was given 2 baobab last year. just repotted this one today in fast draining mix. water daily with everything else.

best wishes, sam


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Awesome, kauaibonsai!

sorry for yesterday's poor pictures. again with less background confusion. development just starting-two baobab bunjin-ji

best wishes, sam

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Do you realize that your Baobab is an Adult!!!!

That is very rare indeed. For a Baobab to grow into an Adult when still in a pot, that is very strange.

Tell us immediately how you grew it. Was it in the ground first? When did you transplant it? Have you ever cut the roots? How old is it? What soil is it in? What do you feed it?

I mentioned earlier that Baobabs love small pots, look how small Sam's pot is...maybe that is the secret..... How long has it been in that pot.

I had a baobab in a very large pot. It matured into an Adult after many years, when I transplanted it, it went back into juvenile stage... so how did you do it?

Thanks for the better photos.

Love and light

hello andre

I can feel your excitement. I have no knowledge of baobab other than from reading your posts, but I will happily try to answer your questions as best as I can. I acquired the trees last year from a friend who was moving. she mentioned she had two baobab in 3 gallon plastic pots that I could have if I was willing to pick them up. otherwise, she was going to leave them in the yard for the next tenant to deal with. the trees were in a weed patch in the backyard. hadn't shoshana pointed them out, I wouldn't have found them. besides being choked with weeds, neither tree had any foliage. they looked dead. shoshana explained they they were dormant but would awaken come spring. I didn't think to ask her how old the trees were or how long they'd been in the plastic pots. I think she said she'd stuck seedlings into the pots years ago and basically forgot about them. the trees were planted in sticky clay soil which didn't look too promising. other than weeding the pots, I put them on the shelf and let them be. new growth appeared up and down the trunks. the leaves were 5 lobed which I know now, signifies an adult tree. about 5 months ago the trunks were wired and bent, unusable growth was eliminated and the trees left to recover. both responded with a flush of new growth , so within the last 2 days I repotted both trees. the root systems were very poor and weak looking resulting from a life in wet clay spoil. I removed the old soil, pruned dead roots and potted the trees in a fast draining mix of compost and cinders. they are in a shady spot recovering. too early to early to tell whether they'll grow-but they should, having been liberated from a life in near swamp like conditions.
hope this helps.

best wishes, sam

Andre,

Last year you commented that my leaves were too big, due to lack of light. This year I´ve added light (cold and warm), but the leaves are on their way to get just as big again. What am I doing wrong?

Pic of today:

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Conny wrote:Andre,

Last year you commented that my leaves were too big, due to lack of light. This year I´ve added light (cold and warm), but the leaves are on their way to get just as big again. What am I doing wrong?

Pic of today:

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 Indoor lighting such as you describe does not match sunlight.

Such a wealth of info in this thread! We've just hit winter here in australia (or just hitting it), and the leaves on my Boab are just starting to turn yellow, so from what I've read, its time to bring it and leave it until the buds start popping?

Billy M. Rhodes wrote:
 Indoor lighting such as you describe does not match sunlight.

I do realize that, but I assume its better than nothing? It grows like crazy so it cant be all bad :-)

My baobab. I cut off the tops, and after a week, well-developed buds. where I am in the middle of summer weather.

Dear friends,

I would like to use a fertilizer to improve growth of the baobab tree.  Is it good or not? At the mall I've seen some fertilizer, like small sticks, mostly for plants and flowers, will those do for trees in pots or would it be a bad idea? Any suggestions, tips of what fertilizer I should use?

Thanks

My baobab is growing out of my window size, and has reached my lamp... can I cut it some now in middle of summer or will that kill it?

Conny wrote:My baobab is growing out of my window size, and has reached my lamp... can I cut it some now in middle of summer or will that kill it?

There seems to be shoots lower down on the trunk. You can cut it there if you have to. Remember with less foliage after the cut, you can cut down on the watering too until the new shoots have grown out again.

If it is summer there you will not have any problems.

Lennard

Hi friends,

I found this forum today. I was looking for information online, if i could grow Baobabs in Cyprus outdoors or not.
Our climate is, rainy winters and very dry summers.

I have 3 baobabs, i planted 5 seeds last year in April.
I got 3 of them grown. Now 3 of them are approx. 14 months old.
They went dormant last year November (2012). And went out of dormancy at the end of May 2013. -nearly 7  months-
I gave them water till they had a little leaves left. Then stopped till May.
I was expecting them to wake up earlier as Cyprus has got warm climate. But as they were still indoors windows open, they didn't show a sign of fresh buds. Then i put them outside on the balcony, and gave tiny water to just damp the surface of the soil. And in a week or so, i saw green buds on one of them. Then other two too


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merman wrote:Hi friends,

I found this forum today. I was looking for information online, if i could grow Baobabs in Cyprus outdoors or not.
Our climate is, rainy winters and very dry summers.

I have 3 baobabs, i planted 5 seeds last year in April.
I got 3 of them grown. Now 3 of them are approx. 14 months old.
They went dormant last year November (2012). And went out of dormancy at the end of May 2013. -nearly 7  months-
I gave them water till they had a little leaves left. Then stopped till May.
I was expecting them to wake up earlier as Cyprus has got warm climate. But as they were still indoors windows open, they didn't show a sign of fresh buds. Then i put them outside on the balcony, and gave tiny water to just damp the surface of the soil. And in a week or so, i saw green buds on one of them. Then other two too

Excellent share merman, thank you for your post. It is always interesting to see how baobabs grow around the world. I am fascinated that you've had them grown up so much during that short period. My baobab is perhaps 15 cm and that's all for this first year.

Take care.

Dear friends,

I would like to have your opinion of how to go further with this baobab and when to stop water it. Since I have had it indoors a lot of time, I believe that the temperature has not decreased remarkable and therefore I do not know when to avoid watering because of winter season.

Here is a picture of how it does look now and has looked like this for weeks. Any signs that I should stop?

Thanks

It seems that the tree has stopped growing and next season's bud has formed. For me this would be a good sign to stop watering.

Lennard.