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Post  YukiShiro on Tue Jul 10, 2012 2:34 pm

I need help with the styling of this wild olive(Olea Europea ssp Africana). I bought it from an old man who dug it up about ten years ago. Any ideas or help welcome Question



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Post  leatherback on Tue Jul 10, 2012 2:45 pm

If you could add some pictures that would help enormously for giving styling advice..

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Post  YukiShiro on Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:19 pm

Here you go, seems I did it wrong the first time Rolling Eyes


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Post  CraftyTanuki on Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:53 am

Chop back hard to bare trunk. Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

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Post  Walter Pall on Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:35 am

Don't do anything with it other than watering and feeding. Bring it to the South African Convention in 2013 for a workshop. We will make a very nice natural tree from it.
It is a popular misconception that bonsai HAVE to be short and fat and have to look like bonsai. It is possible to make them long and elegant and look like trees.
What an outlandish idea!

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Post  Sam Ogranaja on Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:03 pm

Walter Pall wrote:Don't do anything with it other than watering and feeding. Bring it to the South African Convention in 2013 for a workshop. We will make a very nice natural tree from it.
It is a popular misconception that bonsai HAVE to be short and fat and have to look like bonsai. It is possible to make them long and elegant and look like trees.
What an outlandish idea!

YukiShiro,

If I had Walter Pall say anything like that about any of my trees, I'd follow his advice.

Have a great week!!!
Sam

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Post  Steven on Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:19 pm

Sam Ogranaja wrote:
Walter Pall wrote:Don't do anything with it other than watering and feeding. Bring it to the South African Convention in 2013 for a workshop. We will make a very nice natural tree from it.
It is a popular misconception that bonsai HAVE to be short and fat and have to look like bonsai. It is possible to make them long and elegant and look like trees.
What an outlandish idea!

YukiShiro,

If I had Walter Pall say anything like that about any of my trees, I'd follow his advice.

Have a great week!!!
Sam


Agreed, besides that material has some great naturalistic potential

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Post  my nellie on Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:33 pm

YukiShiro, definitely keep your itching hands away from the tree! as already said (in other words) by other members.
Wait for the hands of Mr. Pall to work for you! Because
Walter Pall wrote:... ...It is a popular misconception that bonsai HAVE to be short and fat and have to look like bonsai. It is possible to make them long and elegant and look like trees... ...

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Post  Khaimraj Seepersad on Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:47 pm

Could someone please send a link to images of mature wild olive trees?

Thus far all the images on Google, seem to be short and fat Laughing
Thanks in advance.
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Post  my nellie on Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:00 pm

Here you go, my dear friend! All from Greece!
But perhaps these are too matured and not just mature..., I wonder

http://www.sedik.gr/el//images/stories/gortunadimarhos200x300.jpg

http://www.sedik.gr/el//images/stories/elia2panasos200x300.jpg

http://www.sedik.gr/el//images/stories/elia3panasos200x300.jpg

http://lasithitour.bpis.teicrete.gr/religious/images/route/19/thumbs/palia_elia_myrsini.jpg


Fat yes, short no
http://www.amariotes.gr/anakoinoseis/paidia.jpg
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRaD6oYEyO4BEIPUYoYA3OJ_PYbQcqDcFY0gBXaFcKqsWPPvoTK




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Post  Sam Ogranaja on Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:06 pm

my nellie wrote:Here you go, my dear friend! All from Greece!
But perhaps these are too matured and not just mature..., I wonder

Stunning images!!!!

Here is another.
http://ibonsaiclub.forumotion.com/t8625-amazing-olive-tree-in-the-garden-of-gethsemane

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Post  YukiShiro on Wed Jul 11, 2012 3:05 pm

Thank you all for the comments Very Happy

Where will this South African Convention in 2013 be at? If it's not going to be in either Johannesburg or Pretoria, I won't be able to be there Sad

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Post  Walter Pall on Wed Jul 11, 2012 3:08 pm

Now come on! I live in Germany and have to tell you when and where the South African Convention will be? Ever heard of google search?
Johannesburg is the answer.

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Post  Andre Beaurain on Wed Jul 11, 2012 3:59 pm

That is a very interesting name for an African. Where do you live Yukisiro? I live in the Cape , and I will definately be there!....., to meet Walter!!! Yeah!

Why dont they have it in the Mother City, Johannesburg is Ugly! yuk.

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Post  YukiShiro on Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:58 pm

We'll definitely be there, my apologies Walter, I'd also love to meet you in person, wow, would be a great honour Very Happy
And I'll take mister wild olive along Smile

So excited now Very Happy

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Post  Andre Beaurain on Thu Jul 12, 2012 6:57 am

Yukishiro, you havnt mentioned where you live? I gather its in Gauteng somewhere?

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Post  YukiShiro on Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:25 am

Freestate actually. Near Sasolburg

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Post  Khaimraj Seepersad on Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:41 pm

Madam Alexandra,

I could kiss you so many times.
Thank you so very much !
For the images.

I only just noticed the p.m. Yes please send a direction to article.
Use my normal address.
Wonderfully yours.
Khaimraj

*Now if I could only transform my olive into such beauties.

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Post  Guest on Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:49 am

YukiShiro wrote:

Hi Yukishiro

How wide is the trunk?...and how tall it it, up to were the trunk devides the second time?

Kind regards Yvonne

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Post  YukiShiro on Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:20 pm

Hope this helps more...

Here's the measurements of the tree:

Trunk is 21cm around the thickest part which is above the roots luckily
Length of the branch on the Left side is 14cm
length of middle branch is 13cm
length of the branch on the Right is 32cm
Height is approx. 47cm {Ground to highest point (leaf)}

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Post  CraftyTanuki on Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:57 pm

21cm's thick??!!?? wow, i cant wait to this tree's roots exposed.

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Post  Poink88 on Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:18 pm

CraftyTanuki wrote:21cm's thick??!!?? wow, i cant wait to this tree's roots exposed.
She said 21cm around (circumference not diameter). Wink

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Post  Khaimraj Seepersad on Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:35 pm

More and more I get the feeling that shorter and well branched would be best.
Just a feeling.
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Post  newzealandteatree on Wed Jul 18, 2012 5:34 am

I have cut back hard on this wild olive about 10 years ago and this is the result now. Is this really bad ? You decide. There are many approaches to bonsai and don't let anyone impose his way on you. Laughing

Cheers,

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