a very very crazy palmatum
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Re: a very very crazy palmatum
As mad as this tree is...... I really like it!!!
There was a red leafed semi cascade tree posted a while back that looked similar...
How did you create the "shari"??
Cheers
Bryan
There was a red leafed semi cascade tree posted a while back that looked similar...
How did you create the "shari"??
Cheers
Bryan
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DangerousBry- Member
Re: a very very crazy palmatum
I like this tree vev. Did you create it? How tall was it when you started? How old is it? When did you create the shari? I think it looks best without the leaves.
Best,
Todd
Best,
Todd
Todd Ellis- Member
Re: a very very crazy palmatum
bonsaisr wrote:The word is ungepatchked.
Iris
Du denkst "ungeshikt"? oï, oï
Not really potrzebie, but "shari" on an Acer palmatum, hmmm ???...
It's as if forrest gump never got rid of his iron braces.
AlainK- Member
Re: a very very crazy palmatum
'modern' techniques seem to be to let the wire scar the branches and cut in everywhere but its used on other trees and i guess the acer is as good as the junipers done this way i suppose, with more seasonal interest apart from the spiralling wire scars - for me it would be better if the scars were irregular to match the trunk. The shari will disappear under 'toothpaste worms' of callous unless it is re-cut all the time though, but there is nothing wrong at all with playing about with material like this for a bit of fun.
well done for showing the pictures
cheers Marcus
well done for showing the pictures
cheers Marcus
marcus watts- Member
Re: a very very crazy palmatum
It's not realy like that, it's more technic , because the trunk movements are caused by scarring and the stress in the wood , that's the constraints that causes deformations of the trunk, not the ligatures
abcd- Member
Re: a very very crazy palmatum
Hello
this tree have 8 years, i make it with a litte tree, i make the mouvement and after 5 years i make the shari, i open the shari all the years
this tree is trained(formed) by the ligature with extreme movements, it is really a game(set,play) to go in most farther of the movement, a search(research) on the fact of breaking the codes. Shari is used to stress the movements, I let them heal and I open them because I made by the material(subject) with, it is the holds of healing which interests me, it is not to remove but to make some wood with waves, it is viable in the time(weather); in fact he(it) is puzzling, it is the purpose, to make a movement crazy then to let the plant put his(its) identity of maple above, not make a triangular summit also, in brief a graphic object beyond the limits, break the codes and make a mix between Japanese and Taiwanese
thank you for your opinions(notices)
friendly
bonjour
cet arbre est formé par la ligature avec des mouvements extrêmes, c'est vraiment un jeu pour aller au plus loin du mouvement, une recherche sur le fait de casser les codes.
les shari sont utilisés pour accentuer les mouvements, je les laisse cicatriser et je les ouvre car je fait de la matière avec, c'est les cales de cicatrisation qui m'intéresse, ce n'est pas pour enlever mais pour faire du bois avec des vagues, c'est viable dans le temps;
évidement il est déroutant, c'est le but, faire un mouvement fou puis laisser la plante mettre son identité d'érable dessus, ne pas faire un sommet triangulaire aussi, bref un objet graphique au delà des limites, casser les codes et faire un mix entre le japonais et le taïwanais...
merci pour vos avis
amicalement
this tree have 8 years, i make it with a litte tree, i make the mouvement and after 5 years i make the shari, i open the shari all the years
this tree is trained(formed) by the ligature with extreme movements, it is really a game(set,play) to go in most farther of the movement, a search(research) on the fact of breaking the codes. Shari is used to stress the movements, I let them heal and I open them because I made by the material(subject) with, it is the holds of healing which interests me, it is not to remove but to make some wood with waves, it is viable in the time(weather); in fact he(it) is puzzling, it is the purpose, to make a movement crazy then to let the plant put his(its) identity of maple above, not make a triangular summit also, in brief a graphic object beyond the limits, break the codes and make a mix between Japanese and Taiwanese
thank you for your opinions(notices)
friendly
bonjour
cet arbre est formé par la ligature avec des mouvements extrêmes, c'est vraiment un jeu pour aller au plus loin du mouvement, une recherche sur le fait de casser les codes.
les shari sont utilisés pour accentuer les mouvements, je les laisse cicatriser et je les ouvre car je fait de la matière avec, c'est les cales de cicatrisation qui m'intéresse, ce n'est pas pour enlever mais pour faire du bois avec des vagues, c'est viable dans le temps;
évidement il est déroutant, c'est le but, faire un mouvement fou puis laisser la plante mettre son identité d'érable dessus, ne pas faire un sommet triangulaire aussi, bref un objet graphique au delà des limites, casser les codes et faire un mix entre le japonais et le taïwanais...
merci pour vos avis
amicalement
vev- Member
Re: a very very crazy palmatum
Very creative. It has a very wild contorted feel reminiscent of a strange landscape like came from some alien planet. I believe it is great art (not craft). Keep at it, the ideas are wonderful.
Rob Kempinski- Member
Crazy palmatum
Not quite. ungeschickt is German for clumsy. I think the artist here is very adroit.AlainK wrote:bonsaisr wrote:The word is ungepatchked.
Iris
Du denkst "ungeshikt"? oï, oï
Ungepatchked is a Yiddish word that roughly translates as overbusy.
De gustibus non est disputandum. (There is no dispute about taste.)
Iris
bonsaisr- Member
a very very crazy palmatum
You do have one of a kind !!! though it looks really nice...i can,t understand how you did it but it worked.... take care john
moyogijohn- Member
Re: a very very crazy palmatum
Very nice, a piece of art !
One remark, it seems better with less foliage (even if there is folliage everywhere and not only on top) very light like a "lettré"
Très chouette, une oeuvred'art !
Une remarque, il est plus joli avec moins de feuillage (même si le feuillage n'est pas seulement au sommet de l'arbre) très léger comme un "lettré"
One remark, it seems better with less foliage (even if there is folliage everywhere and not only on top) very light like a "lettré"
Très chouette, une oeuvred'art !
Une remarque, il est plus joli avec moins de feuillage (même si le feuillage n'est pas seulement au sommet de l'arbre) très léger comme un "lettré"
quatrefi- Member
Re: a very very crazy palmatum
I like the pot, it matches the tree.
Somewhat interesting when leafless (to my mind, no more interesting than a topiary in full leaves, but of course, who am I to say that?...)
In my view, new shoots look very straight, and quite long compared to the overall size of the tree. Actually, Acer don't grow like smoke rings, they dont twist like "vipers"
I mean, they don't contort in rounded knots like some of the sights I saw when I was in my late teens after having... well, a go into artificial paradise?
I mean:
1/ from a nature-lover point of view, your approach is very close to what bonsai-ignorant people say "bonsai is a tortured tree"
2/ from a bonsai-amateur's point of view, your approach has no respect for the natural way of thae tree.
3/ from an art-loving person who used to do macramé in the days of dope and hope, I personaly find this kind of design very cumbersome, and rather cheesy.
Pardon my French, but I really find it "kitschissime"...
Que de talent perdu, c'est vraiment dommage
Somewhat interesting when leafless (to my mind, no more interesting than a topiary in full leaves, but of course, who am I to say that?...)
In my view, new shoots look very straight, and quite long compared to the overall size of the tree. Actually, Acer don't grow like smoke rings, they dont twist like "vipers"
I mean, they don't contort in rounded knots like some of the sights I saw when I was in my late teens after having... well, a go into artificial paradise?
I mean:
1/ from a nature-lover point of view, your approach is very close to what bonsai-ignorant people say "bonsai is a tortured tree"
2/ from a bonsai-amateur's point of view, your approach has no respect for the natural way of thae tree.
3/ from an art-loving person who used to do macramé in the days of dope and hope, I personaly find this kind of design very cumbersome, and rather cheesy.
Pardon my French, but I really find it "kitschissime"...
Que de talent perdu, c'est vraiment dommage
AlainK- Member
Re: a very very crazy palmatum
I love this tree! It has taken you many hours of fine bending to create this effect. I wish I was around in a nother hundred years to see it as a mature tree. Nice job; the hardest part I think is shaping the tertiary branches. My experience with maple is that they are very brittle and will break easily. The work has to be done when the new branches are still flexible; this takes a lot of planning to execute. Good job!
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Todd Ellis- Member
Re: a very very crazy palmatum
I love it ,great to see someone doing things just because they enjoy what they are doing. Great skill to achieve something like this.
Smithy- Member
Re: a very very crazy palmatum
Alain, what's the French equivalent of the English expression "Oh no, not that old chestnut again"? Is "canard" even close?
Fact is, very few of the award-winning styled trees I see at shows look like that "trees in nature" thing and we sing their praises from the rooftops. Not sure why a stylised maple should be any different to a stylised juniper.
Let him create - he's having fun. And it's hardly as if he's killing the tree is it?
Fact is, very few of the award-winning styled trees I see at shows look like that "trees in nature" thing and we sing their praises from the rooftops. Not sure why a stylised maple should be any different to a stylised juniper.
Let him create - he's having fun. And it's hardly as if he's killing the tree is it?
fiona- Member
Re: a very very crazy palmatum
Glad to see others out there using imagination and creating something different.
Cheers Graham
Cheers Graham
gman- Member
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