Help with bonsai ID
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kenduncan
Randy_Davis
Jay R
Rick Moquin
Martijn Willems
Marc L
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Re: Help with bonsai ID
I believe this is a Boxwood.
Don't know about the zone you live in but it should be outdoors.
Don't know about the zone you live in but it should be outdoors.
Martijn Willems- Member
Re: Help with bonsai ID
Looks like a Boxwood to me too. You may want to fill in some info in your profile. It will appear by your name and will get you more specific advise for your area.
Jay
Jay
Jay R- Member
Re: Help with bonsai ID
Thanks for the help in IDing my bonsai. Does anyone know more specifically which variety of boxwood this is (does it matter)? I've included a better photo of the flowers, in case that helps. The petals are rather thick for their size, and the back of them looks waxy.
Also, I've updated my profile, as requested. I live in DC, zone 7.
Also, I've updated my profile, as requested. I live in DC, zone 7.
Marc L- Member
Re: Help with bonsai ID
Hi Marc
Your boxwood is the English form (Buxus sempervirens). The cultivar is unknown since there are only about 100 or more cultivars to choose from. From a bonsai standpoint all boxwoods can be handled the same from a cultivation standpoint. Feel free to prune as they bud back quite readily which is a good thing for the bonsai beginner. I'm sure you'll be able to find good detail instructions on it's care in many places on the internet. You might try BCI as a good place to find information - http://www.bonsai-bci.com/species/boxwood.html
You should also contact the Potomac bonsai club since it's in your area. - http://www.potomacbonsai.com/potomacBonsai/index.html
good luck!
Your boxwood is the English form (Buxus sempervirens). The cultivar is unknown since there are only about 100 or more cultivars to choose from. From a bonsai standpoint all boxwoods can be handled the same from a cultivation standpoint. Feel free to prune as they bud back quite readily which is a good thing for the bonsai beginner. I'm sure you'll be able to find good detail instructions on it's care in many places on the internet. You might try BCI as a good place to find information - http://www.bonsai-bci.com/species/boxwood.html
You should also contact the Potomac bonsai club since it's in your area. - http://www.potomacbonsai.com/potomacBonsai/index.html
good luck!
Randy_Davis- Member
Re: Help with bonsai ID
The flowers and the leaves look like some form of Japanese holly (Ilex Crenata)>
Ken
Ken
kenduncan- Member
Re: Help with bonsai ID
Yes. It is boxwood. I would have suggested B. mycrophylla.
If it smells a little like cat piss it is B. mycrophylla.
If it smells a little like cat piss it is B. mycrophylla.
JimLewis- Member
Re: Help with bonsai ID
JimLewis wrote:Yes. It is boxwood. I would have suggested B. mycrophylla.
Hi Jim,
I don't think it's B. microphylla (Japanese Boxwood) which has a yellow-green and more rounded mature foliage and will put on a bronzy cast during the cold months. In Marc's picture the mature foliage is a nice "bluish-green" and somewhat oblong which is the right coloration and shape for B. sempervirens. I doubt that they are selling much B. microphylla in the DC area as it's not as cold tolerant as B. sempervirens which is commonly avaliable in the colder winter climate areas. In any event from a bonsai perspective they would both be treated the same culturally.
Randy_Davis- Member
Re: Help with bonsai ID
Thank you all for your time, information and advice. Now I'll be able to take proper care of my new baby.
Marc L- Member
Re: Help with bonsai ID
Hi ken ,
Yes,they are very close in deed. the easiest way to tell is by the new and one year old growth of the stem. Buxus will have a stem that is quadrangular shape with leaves opposite in pairs where Ilex crenata will be a round round stem with alternating leaves. Good call Ken! Marc should look closely.
Yes,they are very close in deed. the easiest way to tell is by the new and one year old growth of the stem. Buxus will have a stem that is quadrangular shape with leaves opposite in pairs where Ilex crenata will be a round round stem with alternating leaves. Good call Ken! Marc should look closely.
Randy_Davis- Member
Re: Help with bonsai ID
The leaves are definitely like Ken's photo on the left: serated, both halves angled toward the center, but not curved like Ken's photo on the right. As for positioning of the leaves (alternating vs opposite), it's not as clear cut as Ken's samples, but it does look more like the sample on the left.
So now I'm looking at a holly it seems. My poor baby is having an identity crisis!
Do the flowers give any further information?
So now I'm looking at a holly it seems. My poor baby is having an identity crisis!
Do the flowers give any further information?
Marc L- Member
Re: Help with bonsai ID
Hi Mark, The flowers do look like a Holly to me. Are those rocks glued down? If the rocks are glued to the surface, You should remove them and think about repotting the tree in some good Bonsai soil and keep it outside.
Ken
Ken
kenduncan- Member
Re: Help with bonsai ID
Yes, the rocks are glued down. I thought it was peculiar. Is this common practice?
We've had some cool, rainy weather since I bought it on the weekend, so I've kept it indoors. I put it outside today, keeping an eye on the weather (possibility of thundershowers).
I'll repot it ASAP. I have 2 types of bonsai soil: "deciduous" and "conifer". Which would you recommend?
Another question: as the flowers die, should I remove the head (deadhead), or prune it to the bottom of the shoot?
We've had some cool, rainy weather since I bought it on the weekend, so I've kept it indoors. I put it outside today, keeping an eye on the weather (possibility of thundershowers).
I'll repot it ASAP. I have 2 types of bonsai soil: "deciduous" and "conifer". Which would you recommend?
Another question: as the flowers die, should I remove the head (deadhead), or prune it to the bottom of the shoot?
Marc L- Member
Re: Help with bonsai ID
Hi Mark, You will find the Bonsai at Home Depot and other places like that, will have the glued on rocks, I think that it is for shipping. You should remove the rocks right away so that the plant can get water and air. When You get ready to repot the tree, I would use the deciduous mix, something that is well draining, but holds some moisture. The flowers can be removed but they will probably fall off on there own.
Good luck with your tree.
Ken
Good luck with your tree.
Ken
kenduncan- Member
Re: Help with bonsai ID
Do the flowers give any further information?
Hello Marc - this is the sort of question that does a botanical heart good! Flowers most certainly do provide further information - they are the cornerstone of plant identification. The holly determination is right on target - and the flowers are the proof. Boxwood belongs to the Box family, Buxaceae, which is characterized by unisexual flowers typically borne in spikes, racemes or fascicles. Your photo clearly shows bisexual flowers, so it most definitely falls outside the Box... The photo also clearly shows the nice fat stigma which characterizes many an Aquifoliaceae (the Holly family).
Thanks for the fun, and for the good clear photo of the flowers - that's a rare treat in ID requests!
David Brunner
David Brunner- Member
Re: Help with bonsai ID
Thanks, David, for reinforcing Ken's position, and for the detailed clarification.
I'm going to really show my ignorance by asking what the difference is between male/female/bisexual, in the context of flowers.
I'm going to really show my ignorance by asking what the difference is between male/female/bisexual, in the context of flowers.
Marc L- Member
Re: Help with bonsai ID
Marc – now this is really getting fun!
I have scanned an image from a very old text because it has long since gone into the public domain – I don’t want to step on copyright toes… But not much has changed in basic plant morphology in the intervening years. The image comes from page 461 of “Comparative Morphology of Vascular Plants” by Adriance Foster and Ernest Gifford, published by W.H. Freeman and Co. in 1959.
The image is that of a basic bisexual (also called “perfect”) flower representative of the reproductive structures of many flowering plants. The term bisexual is used because the flower has both female reproductive structures (the ovary, style and stigma – collectively called the pistil) and male reproductive structures (the anther and filament – collectively called the stamen) present in the same flower. Unisexual flowers would have only one or more pistils or one or more stamens in each flower.
You can see that the drawing here resembles the picture you posted, where both a single pistil and multiple stamens are present in the same flower.
Does this help with your question?
David Brunner
I have scanned an image from a very old text because it has long since gone into the public domain – I don’t want to step on copyright toes… But not much has changed in basic plant morphology in the intervening years. The image comes from page 461 of “Comparative Morphology of Vascular Plants” by Adriance Foster and Ernest Gifford, published by W.H. Freeman and Co. in 1959.
The image is that of a basic bisexual (also called “perfect”) flower representative of the reproductive structures of many flowering plants. The term bisexual is used because the flower has both female reproductive structures (the ovary, style and stigma – collectively called the pistil) and male reproductive structures (the anther and filament – collectively called the stamen) present in the same flower. Unisexual flowers would have only one or more pistils or one or more stamens in each flower.
You can see that the drawing here resembles the picture you posted, where both a single pistil and multiple stamens are present in the same flower.
Does this help with your question?
David Brunner
David Brunner- Member
Re: Help with bonsai ID
Yes David, that clears things up. Thanks again!
I really should get a proper plant & bonsai education, and join my local bonsai club.
I really should get a proper plant & bonsai education, and join my local bonsai club.
Marc L- Member
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