getting over crowded

Jun, [ Ravi]

I am 49 in Feb,2011, but remember I started Bonsai when I was 17/18 and apart from buying the books, and visiting Bonsai Nurseries, I have had endless time to experiment. Plus, Bonsai is not about finishing. Finishing, which is more about a design reaching it's optimum and then it grows away from the optimum, so you get to start another design.

Because i am also a Fine Artist, the experimenting appeals to me as much as a finished design. Remember, an oil painting at the level of say -example - Virgin of the Rocks - Da Vinci- is a step off into the unknown. This unknown is very exciting to me. So I can take a small root of an Ixora, with leaves, and grow it in a small 5 x 5 x 5 cm pot, and enjoy it all the way to where ever it goes. In this case I got to observe how two very twisted roots, with time began to straighten and now I am expecting the first bloom.[ The Universe in a grain of sand.]

But if I re-call from another post in another section, you are looking at selling for old age security. I already have the house, land and means. At 50, I expect to make a few other additions and changes.
As a hobby, this is a low cost situation, and I still water by hand from a 2 US gallon watering can. I do this once in the evening to wash the leaves, cool the trees and dampen the soil. They have enough time to greet the night air with dried foliage, so no fungus.
In the morning I water twice and do some cleaning or other.
My studio is home, but I collect my visual information as drawings done all over the island. [ I don't need to use photos.]

So Ravi -- this is heaven on earth - ha ha ha.

Mgallex -- Patience is for those things you don't like doing. With 200 or so plants, you can keep happy without killing with kindness. I used to teach Bonsai classes for a while, many years ago - chuckle.

Control comes when you understand and appreciate the ------- when a design matures, you start anew.
At that point, the effort to get to design, will control the desire to just have.
It is the true achievements that will with age keep you centred.

Also as you get familiar with your trees as individuals / friends, you will sense when they become acquaintances.
Later.
Khaimraj

Khaimraj Seepersad wrote:Jun, [ Ravi]

I am 49 in Feb,2011, but remember I started Bonsai when I was 17/18 and apart from buying the books, and visiting Bonsai Nurseries, I have had endless time to experiment. Plus, Bonsai is not about finishing. Finishing, which is more about a design reaching it's optimum and then it grows away from the optimum, so you get to start another design.

Because i am also a Fine Artist, the experimenting appeals to me as much as a finished design. Remember, an oil painting at the level of say -example - Virgin of the Rocks - Da Vinci- is a step off into the unknown. This unknown is very exciting to me. So I can take a small root of an Ixora, with leaves, and grow it in a small 5 x 5 x 5 cm pot, and enjoy it all the way to where ever it goes. In this case I got to observe how two very twisted roots, with time began to straighten and now I am expecting the first bloom.[ The Universe in a grain of sand.]

But if I re-call from another post in another section, you are looking at selling for old age security. I already have the house, land and means. At 50, I expect to make a few other additions and changes.
As a hobby, this is a low cost situation, and I still water by hand from a 2 US gallon watering can. I do this once in the evening to wash the leaves, cool the trees and dampen the soil. They have enough time to greet the night air with dried foliage, so no fungus.
In the morning I water twice and do some cleaning or other.
My studio is home, but I collect my visual information as drawings done all over the island. [ I don't need to use photos.]

So Ravi -- this is heaven on earth - ha ha ha.

Mgallex -- Patience is for those things you don't like doing. With 200 or so plants, you can keep happy without killing with kindness. I used to teach Bonsai classes for a while, many years ago - chuckle.

Control comes when you understand and appreciate the ------- when a design matures, you start anew.
At that point, the effort to get to design, will control the desire to just have.
It is the true achievements that will with age keep you centred.

Also as you get familiar with your trees as individuals / friends, you will sense when they become acquaintances.
Later.
Khaimraj

there you are my friend!
nice to hear from you again.
I guess I'm just a friendly guy then, because I'm familiar with all my trees as individual/ friends and they are acquaintances for me.

control varies from person to person. some people can have several hundred trees and create still something magnificent even to the almost useless tree in their collection, and some people with less than ten trees doing bonsai for the rest of their lives cannot do anything significant even to one tree. (this is not a "IMHO" it's a fact)

regards,
jun

...and oh, the selling of trees in the future is not meant for me. I't was posted to give an alternative to other people, and for those who might think that bonsai is a waste of money, specially those who are not in the circle.

regards,
jun

Jun, Khaimraj, please remember that it is all about the trees.

Jun,

on our side we have folk who - eat, sleep and bodily function - to them luxuries [ Bonsai ] are a waste, because they cannot be used immediately like $$. We call it the - animal philosophy.

With folk who don't have a lot of $$ to spend on trees / pots / tools, I suggest starting with seeds or cuttings. For the impatient, I either suggest other than Bonsai, or I give them a Ficus benjamina. If they can last the 6 months, they have a chance.
[ I also teach folk to take simple commercial glazes and coat simple pottery saucers, or wooden boxes and use as Bonsai pots.]

Once again, Bonsai is not about impressive designs, it is about the love of nature. Trees can be almost any shape, and not all are visually impressive, but a living, healthy tree, even a poor shape, will satisfy the desire to enjoy nature.

It is only when you publicly display [ i.e invite someone into your garden and ask for opinions] that design becomes important.

A healthy tree is a joy forever.
Khaimraj

Sorry Kev. Just got carried away...again.

yes its all about trees.

regards,
jun


khaimraj,

thanks. I love all trees, no matter how they look... same reason why I hate competition of trees, I still find it not appropriate if not unethical.


regards,
jun