simon has carbunkles on his garfunkle
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Oliver Muscio
JimLewis
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simon has carbunkles on his garfunkle
sorry for the title but "lesions on a juniperus virginiana" just sounds so... clinical.
and i didnt put this under "pest & diseases" as it looks more like growths rather than a pest or disease
anyways, i was doing some pre-season branchlette removal from a eastern red cedar forest i have planted in a cut-off cask
and came across a bunch of these things on some branches of several, but not all the trees
in situ:
close-ups:
and dissections:
so, like i said, to my untrained eye, it doesn't look like a pest or disease, but i could be wrong...
but if anyone knows what it is or if i should be concerned i would be most appreciative...
and i didnt put this under "pest & diseases" as it looks more like growths rather than a pest or disease
anyways, i was doing some pre-season branchlette removal from a eastern red cedar forest i have planted in a cut-off cask
and came across a bunch of these things on some branches of several, but not all the trees
in situ:
close-ups:
and dissections:
so, like i said, to my untrained eye, it doesn't look like a pest or disease, but i could be wrong...
but if anyone knows what it is or if i should be concerned i would be most appreciative...
Kevin S - Wisco Bonsai- Member
Re: simon has carbunkles on his garfunkle
Looks in second-to-last picture like a gall. Trees also look very unhealthy and maybe dead. J. virginiana turns ugly color in winter, but that light brown spells death w/o the transfiguation.
JimLewis- Member
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thanks jim... yes, i know they are in less than perfect health... i won a bucket full at in a raffle drawing and they were really crammed in there, so i separated them and stuck them in that cut off cask last spring... they didnt look bad last summer, but right now it is march in wisconsin, so i am hoping they rebound this spring if left unmolested (any further)...
so, what is a gall ???
and should i be concerned ?
so, what is a gall ???
and should i be concerned ?
Kevin S - Wisco Bonsai- Member
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gall
Here's a similar gall found on bald cypress -- in this case, one of mine, in Florida:
Here's a similar gall found on bald cypress -- in this case, one of mine, in Florida:
JimLewis- Member
Re: simon has carbunkles on his garfunkle
Looks like cedar-apple rust galls to me. If so, may produce gelatinous protrusions this spring.
Oliver
Oliver
Oliver Muscio- Member
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thanks jim and oliver...
i just got back in from picking them off as best i can...
but per oliver i was now able to find this:
http://plantclinic.cornell.edu/factsheets/CedarAppleRust.pdf
(googling just "gall" was too general.)
but still pretty vague on how to treat other than fungicide and even that they couch in disclaimers
i just got back in from picking them off as best i can...
but per oliver i was now able to find this:
http://plantclinic.cornell.edu/factsheets/CedarAppleRust.pdf
(googling just "gall" was too general.)
but still pretty vague on how to treat other than fungicide and even that they couch in disclaimers
Kevin S - Wisco Bonsai- Member
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Oliver Muscio wrote:Looks like cedar-apple rust galls to me. If so, may produce gelatinous protrusions this spring.
Oliver
I Agree! Before or as soon as you see the tell tale orange spore masses oozing out of the galls, remove them, bag and burn or dispose them, dont let the spores release and spread - it is a chronic problem with junipers and will spread to apples, its alternate victim. (equally ugly in apples) The infection is difficult to cure, diligent gall removal is mandatory.
Leo Schordje- Member
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damn... after pulling them off, i just tossed 'em on the ground...
didnt know i was dealing with the crichton's andromeda strain
i will be more diligent now that i know
didnt know i was dealing with the crichton's andromeda strain
i will be more diligent now that i know
Kevin S - Wisco Bonsai- Member
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The more I look at those pic the more certain I am that it won't matter for those trees.
JimLewis- Member
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you may be right...
maybe thats why they were tossed into the raffle
and if so, oh well... live and learn.
should know for sure sooner than later
maybe thats why they were tossed into the raffle
and if so, oh well... live and learn.
should know for sure sooner than later
Kevin S - Wisco Bonsai- Member
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I really think that unlike the title of a song by a certain singer and songwriter pair of artists the 'Leaves that are Green' they are almost assuredly are not and even if 'April Come She Will' it is may not save the tree from being 'Home Bound'
Michael Cooper- Member
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by the way, michael... i neglected to acknowledge the cleverness of your gloomy prediction...
well done !
well done !
Kevin S - Wisco Bonsai- Member
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Hi Kevin, Any updates on your Eastern Red Cedar grove?? Love to see pictures if you have any.
Thank you!
Thank you!
DaveV.- Member
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dave - no real update other than it is living !
LOL - actually just did a major clean up, height reduction and branch selection on it during our last warm spell in january...
(and in keeping with this tread, i did not see any carbunkles on it)
this is the only picture i have available from that session and it shows all the beautiful drabness of winter
the future is repotting this spring at which time i will also rehab and preserve the wooden pot for longevity...
after that i am just going to let it run a bit to gain some more trunk girth, and do more branch selection.
(typing this seems like de ja vu... did i already post this ??? )
LOL - actually just did a major clean up, height reduction and branch selection on it during our last warm spell in january...
(and in keeping with this tread, i did not see any carbunkles on it)
this is the only picture i have available from that session and it shows all the beautiful drabness of winter
the future is repotting this spring at which time i will also rehab and preserve the wooden pot for longevity...
after that i am just going to let it run a bit to gain some more trunk girth, and do more branch selection.
(typing this seems like de ja vu... did i already post this ??? )
Kevin S - Wisco Bonsai- Member
Re: simon has carbunkles on his garfunkle
I have a bunch of parsons juni growing out in grandmas yard. Half of them had this shit,on them last spring. Ill be out chopping off all those garfunkles before they turn to goo this weekend and fungicide spraying everything. I treated all my crabs and junis at home last fall and now bud break is upon us, I'll be blasting the Danconil on them again biweekly thru midsummer to stop this grossness...
brian soldano- Member
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yeah man... when i saw the alien goo, I literally freaked the hell OUT.
so far it seems like once the funugae is eliminated, it stay gone...
unless of course they get re-tainted.
so far it seems like once the funugae is eliminated, it stay gone...
unless of course they get re-tainted.
Kevin S - Wisco Bonsai- Member
Re: simon has carbunkles on his garfunkle
Wild juniper and apples can be effected and easily spread to the benches, even from over a mile away. Regular and early Prevention is the best treatment.
brian soldano- Member
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wow... didnt know the spores could travel THAT far !
Kevin S - Wisco Bonsai- Member
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