Crabapple tree

I bought a nursery crabapple 3 years ago,with no graft i could see.. cut it down to 10 inches.. i let new branches and a new apex trunk grow out.. question is how long before it will flower and fruit ??? the tree has been posted here but i don,t know where it is now.. thank you for information.. take care john

I found the progression pictures in my profile of this tree.. any suggestions when it might flower,,fruit for me ??? thanks john ,it is really growing well..

If there is no graft, it is either a seedling or cutting grown. If it is a seedling, figure 5 to 15 years. My crabapple was cutting grown. I bought it in 1999 and it started blooming in 2004. It would help to know what species it is.
Iris

bonsaisr wrote:If there is no graft, it is either a seedling or cutting grown. If it is a seedling, figure 5 to 15 years. My crabapple was cutting grown. I bought it in 1999 and it started blooming in 2004. It would help to know what species it is.
Iris

Hi Iris,

Besides species, which other factors may influence the time of flowering? 2 years ago I bought a bunch of 1 year old seedlings, wrapped them around a bit and put them in the ground. I was thinking pulling them out next year and putting them in a bonsai dish. But if that would postpone flowering, I should leave them in the ground a year or two longer?

Once they have flowered, and you manipulate roots etc. Do the loose their flowering or will the come pack (Maybe with one lapsed year)?

J.

Mrs. Iris.. the tree is perfusion crabapple,,it was about 6 ft. tall chopped to 10 in. and re growen from there... pictures are in my profile,,all my post.... thank you john

The factor that will most influence blooming is the maturity of the wood. Your seedlings should be in the ground, not shoved together, in full sun, and fed heavily. If you recall, little girls in the Western world reach puberty much earlier than they used to, because they are healthier & better fed. Works for trees, too.
John, I remember now, the name is 'PROFUSION.' However, if you chopped it back that much, & you can't find the graft, you may have the understock, which will be fine for bonsai, but will have small flowers.
Iris

Once a crabapple reaches blooming age, repotting will not stop it. Of course if you do something drastic, bloom may be poor the following year.
I used to have a hawthorn that bloomed beautifully every year. However, the lowest branch developed much later, & that branch never bloomed. If the tree had lived, I assume it would have bloomed eventually.
John, the reason I think you lost the top is that hybrid cultivars in the regular nursery trade are always grafted. Only species are cutting grown or micropropagated. When you buy a tree for bonsai from a regular garden center, it is important to ask if it is grafted & find the graft union.
Iris

Thank You Mrs Iris for your information... i did not know it would be that long !! I have seen much smaller trees with fruit allready.. guess i am in for the long haul right.. take care john

Indeed Iris, thank you

moyogijohn wrote:I have seen much smaller trees with fruit allready.. guess i am in for the long haul  right..  take care  john

Ths size is usually less relevant than the actual age, unfortunately. But for certyain species, taking an air-layer or cuttings from plants in flower, the plant will just continue the flowering cycle the next year.

Thank You Leatherback,,For your input,, I guess this will be a tree with good color foliage for a while !!! WE WILL SEE HOW IT GOES.. Thanks take care john

leatherback wrote:... ...But for certyain species, taking an air-layer or cuttings from plants in flower, the plant will just continue the flowering cycle the next year.

Very interesting indeed,leatherback, but are you referring only in crabapples? What other trees  do you know which will respond the same?

Is it this one you're talking about?

https://ibonsaiclub.forumotion.com/t9436-perfusion-crab-apple

Fiona,, That is the tree in ouestion.. now it has more limbs grown from buds that popped in 2 years.. the tree is healthy and grows new growth weekly.. thanks for your responce.. take care john