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Bristlecone Pines, General Advice

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Post  Lee Brindley Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:14 pm

Hi all. I live in the UK and have what now seems to be a Bristlecone Pine (It was offered for sale in a local bonsai nursery as a Japanese White Pine, but is clearly not). I have recently given it a restyling as a literati as the lower branches were very weak. Now I would like to build the foliage pads and refine the image, but cannot find any online info regarding candle pinching etc for this species. I have heard that Bristlecones can keep their needles for as long as 40 years, so I assume they need specialised pruning!

I would particularly like to hear from anybody who has grown this species in the UK, but I assume there are not many in the country, so would of course appreciate any help from across the pond too.

Regards, Lee.

PS, Here is the obligatory photo. Wink

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Post  chris Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:51 pm

Hi Lee
what makes you think it is not a white pine?
How many needles has it, e.g 5, 2 etc
The Korean and Chinese imports of white pines look like what you are showing

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Post  Lee Brindley Fri Apr 05, 2013 9:19 pm

chris wrote:Hi Lee
what makes you think it is not a white pine?
How many needles has it, e.g 5, 2 etc
The Korean and Chinese imports of white pines look like what you are showing

Regards Chris

Hi Chris,
I posted a thread on here a while a ago when I was given the tree as I thought there was something wrong with it. The leaves were (and still are to a degree) covered with sap residues. Somebody commented that it was definately a Bristlecone from the photos and the sap was normal for the species, particularly in Winter. The needles are stiffer than any white pine I have seen and do not have the characteristic pale undersides. The buds look very hard and pointed. The nursery of origin is the sort of place where I wouldn't put too much faith in the ID tag either. Rolling Eyes The needles are in clusters of five as per both parviflora and aristata.
Thanks, Lee.

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Post  bonsaisr Sat Apr 06, 2013 2:57 pm

Just for the heck of it, I Googled on Bristlecone Pine Close-up and Japanese White Pine Close-up. White pine needles are softer & thinner. Hard to tell if it's bristlecone. I would suggest consulting the nearest university with a botany department. scratch
Is it likely that a bristlecone pine would travel all the way to UK?
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Post  chris Sat Apr 06, 2013 3:13 pm

Looking at the Pics and doing a bit of reading up I can see I can see how you have arrived at this conclusion, looks like you are right
Be nice to see how the buds develop

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Post  Lee Brindley Sat Apr 06, 2013 8:42 pm

Thanks for the replies. As for how it could have come to be in the UK, I have seen seeds for sale on Ebay, so that could be a possibility.
Assuming it is a Bristlecone, could anybody point me in the direction of any tips on how the foliage should be refined, i.e. similar to other 5-needle pines (parviflora) or can black pine techniques be used? I believe that Bristlecones will readilly back bud on old wood.
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Post  Lee Brindley Mon Apr 08, 2013 3:50 pm

I guess nobody in the world has Bristlecone bonsai? Rolling Eyes
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Post  bonsaisr Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:54 pm

If you Google on bristlecone pine bonsai, you will find plenty of information.
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