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Pinus uncinata in a classic Japanese style

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Post  bonsaisr Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:21 pm

From the Plant List:
Pinus uncinata Ramond ex DC. is a synonym of Pinus mugo subsp. uncinata (Ramond ex DC.) Domin.
I n other words, it is not a separate species.
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Post  cram Tue Mar 12, 2013 3:42 pm


well...about the title..for me ...this tree is a lot of things but not a classical japanese styled tree Laughing
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Post  Andrew Campbell Tue Mar 12, 2013 6:58 pm


This pine is nice indeed however I would of preferred it not covering up so much of the trunk.
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Post  appalachianOwl Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:02 pm

this tree is beautiful, unique, and mysterious, very nice. wish could see in person! any chance to see from a few angles? thanks for sharing to begin with as well.
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Post  Emmy40 Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:59 pm

appalachianOwl wrote: any chance to see from a few angles?
Sorry, it was raining and I hurried. I took only this face ... Another time! ;-)
Especially since the angle of the picture is maybe not quite the right...

Another photo taken during labor on another angle. Volumes are perhaps more readable?

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Post  Andre Beaurain Wed Mar 13, 2013 10:55 am

mambo wrote:I guess the branch that covers the trunk has been placed there because the trunk section it covers is straight? Personally, I think it covers too much of the trunk and abcd's virtual does the tree much more justice.

The branch on the left also looks "wrong" and if possible would be better placed towards the rear.

The tree is still very wo dimensional and needs some depth.

Finally, I don't think that the pot really suits the tree very well....

Just my thoughts

I also think the branch going down in front of the trunk needs to follow abcd virtual, but still a very nice tree indeed.



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Post  sunip Wed Mar 13, 2013 12:24 pm

Hello,
The trunk allows an even stronger contra movement then shown in Vevs drawing.
A dramatic surviving of the elements, hiding in its own trunk trying to contemplate growth.
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Post  appalachianOwl Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:04 pm

[quote] Sorry, it was raining and I hurried. I took only this face ... Another time! ;-)
Especially since the angle of the picture is maybe not quite the right...

Another photo taken during labor on another angle. Volumes are perhaps more readable?
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thank you much Emmy, captured more volume for sure. when/if you have the time/opportunity in future sure others would enjoy it's "other" faces also. very appreciative for quick response, thanks again! Have to agree with ya sunip as well, very intersting story this one is telling!
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Post  Nunovsky_PT Thu Mar 14, 2013 3:32 pm

Hi! This pine reminds me of this larix from Oscar Roncari.

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Post  AlainK Thu Mar 14, 2013 5:49 pm

Hello,

I haven't visited this forum for a while but:

1/ I find this tree beautiful, but I wouldn't leave so much foliage on the lower front part. But this is not my tree, and I still like it a lot as it is.
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Post  fiona Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:32 pm

Okay folks, I've tidied this thread up and got rid of the non-tree related posts. Apologies to those whose posts were removed even though all they were doing was trying to smooth things over,but I thought it best to take it right back to posts about the actual tree. However, before we return to talking about the tree, can I humbly make a couple of points:

First, as usual can I remind people just to apply a little common sense and consideration in what is posted. Most members do adopt that approach but quite clearly things can go wrong very quickly. And the biggest shame is where that happens when the original poster has made a genuine error in usage of a term with absolutely no intention to offend.

Second, a number of people posted their dismay in the original version of the thread that the Moderators had not stepped in before now. Given that we are often accused of jumping in too quickly, I think you can safely assume that if we have not intervened, it is probably because we have not seen the thread rather than us not feeling it necessary or worse, not caring. I myself was away on holiday and have not been able to access IBC in that time. With the best will in the world, we cannot keep up with every thread so it would be helpful if rather than write on the actual thread, that you drop us a PM where a thread looks like it is going seriously wrong like this one did. Give it time to sort itself out as many threads do, but if you think we haven't seen it and it's heading for disaster, then please let us know.

Thanks
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Now, about that tree.....
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Post  Todd Ellis Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:32 am

Nunovsky_PT wrote:Hi! This pine reminds me of this larix from Oscar Roncari.

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Just happened to read Fiona's PM, looked for this thread, then found this photo of this Larch. I am stunned by its beauty! WOW!!!!! Very moved here in Virgina! Did I say WOW?
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Post  law Sat Apr 27, 2013 8:40 pm

Oh course i've hurted any japaneese people i apologise to them."Jap" was just a simple contraction to me, nothing else and very far to be insulting in my opinion.

So, know that the tittle have been changed, that my post have been mooved once again in "bonsai progression" like all my works (what is very strange because it seem that my trees should be in there right palce in "bonsai discussion") and that i ve really interagrated that i've to change the pot, moove the bottom branch and at the end change completely my skill and my still to please most of people wich openess is not to demonstrate... Laughing

Maybe we can continue to follow this work without changing anything that have been done with heart.

Or maybe not, time will tell, as always. Bagpiper
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Post  augustine Sun Apr 28, 2013 5:12 am

Law,

Once again you've posted a beautiful tree and once again started controversy. I love your tree and the foliage is especially lovely.

Keep creating, thank you.

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Post  Vance Wood Sun Apr 28, 2013 1:45 pm

Beautiful tree.
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Post  giga Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:59 pm

Reminds me of the moon love it!
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Post  law Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:52 pm

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Post  MrFancyPlants Tue Oct 15, 2013 12:31 am

It's funny how a slight change in angle can make such an impact on the photgraphed representation. I would say that you found a new front, but I would think that in person the front is just fine where it is. I enjoy the impression of modesty, like the tree is trying to hide or cover itself up. The viewer would be drawn in to look around the foiliage for a peep show.
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Post  Vance Wood Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:37 pm

MrFancyPlants wrote:It's funny how a slight change in angle can make such an impact on the photgraphed representation.  I would say that you found a new front, but I would think that in person the front is just fine where it is.  I enjoy the impression of modesty, like the tree is trying to hide or cover itself up.  The viewer would be drawn in to look around the foiliage for a peep show.
Very good analogy, the tree is like a peep show.
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Post  law Fri Sep 12, 2014 2:15 pm

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Post  law Fri Sep 12, 2014 2:19 pm

It's funny to see that some people have the right to cross the trunk with branches. But some people only. kingPinus uncinata in a classic Japanese style  - Page 2 10352910


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Post  Poink88 Fri Sep 12, 2014 2:20 pm

Very nice tree.

I prefer the back as front...probably even more if it get some shari also. Probably because the lowest branch is on the back from this side?

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Post  AlainK Fri Sep 12, 2014 4:44 pm

Better and better Cool
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Post  Gary Swiech Sat Sep 13, 2014 10:16 pm

I like the tree. It reminds me of a mountain tree on a mountain. I also like it's gnarlyness. It will be a different tree in another couple of years.

Sweet tree.
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Post  Vance Wood Sun Oct 12, 2014 10:12 pm

I like everything about this tree. I especially like the way you have twisted the branches in on themselves in order to shorten them. I know it is contrived but it looks natural and nature made.
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