Would you bonsai a regular apple tree?
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Would you bonsai a regular apple tree?
I have an opportunity to collect an apple tree...it is about 4 feet tall and have a base of 8" or so with lots of low branches. It looks like a heavy set bush right now. The leaves looks like 3" long and not sure if they can be reduced.
Would this make a descent bonsai?
Thank you.
Would this make a descent bonsai?
Thank you.
Poink88- Member
Re: Would you bonsai a regular apple tree?
Yup!
Collected material is mostly about getting a decent trunk caliper, the branches usually get re-grown from scratch later on anyway.
I have a standard apple in the works now and have gotten the leaves down to 3/4 inch easily. Watch out though, as they can be very fast growers and you will definitely need to balance the root growth (i.e. use the dwarfing power of the bonsai pot to full advantage)
well worth the dig usually!
-Jay
Collected material is mostly about getting a decent trunk caliper, the branches usually get re-grown from scratch later on anyway.
I have a standard apple in the works now and have gotten the leaves down to 3/4 inch easily. Watch out though, as they can be very fast growers and you will definitely need to balance the root growth (i.e. use the dwarfing power of the bonsai pot to full advantage)
well worth the dig usually!
-Jay

drgonzo- Member
Re: Would you bonsai a regular apple tree?
Thank you Jay.
I believe I can get lots of branches on this one since they are as low as 6" if my recollection is correct and spaced really close. I am stoked now!!!
BTW, any tips on how much roots I need to get?
I believe I can get lots of branches on this one since they are as low as 6" if my recollection is correct and spaced really close. I am stoked now!!!
BTW, any tips on how much roots I need to get?
Poink88- Member
Re: Would you bonsai a regular apple tree?
Poink88 wrote:
BTW, any tips on how much roots I need to get?
As always when collecting, as much as you can.
-Jay

drgonzo- Member
Re: Would you bonsai a regular apple tree?
Apples make great bonsai. The best come from old, untended orchards. See the late Jerry Stowell's The Beginner's Guide to American Bonsai for info and pictures on doing apple bonsai. It is out of print, but www.abebooks.com will have one for a few dollars.
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JimLewis- Member
Re: Would you bonsai a regular apple tree?
JimLewis wrote:Apples make great bonsai. The best come from old, untended orchards. See the late Jerry Stowell's The Beginner's Guide to American Bonsai for info and pictures on doing apple bonsai. It is out of print, but www.abebooks.com will have one for a few dollars.
I just bought the book from Amazon (who owns Abebooks now) for $3.77 w/ free delivery.
Thanks Jim!
Poink88- Member
Re: Would you bonsai a regular apple tree?
I just bought the book from Amazon (who owns Abebooks now)
Awwww . . . Say it ain't SO! They swallowed bibliofind and now Abe Books? Are there any independent used bookstores on the web any more?
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Jim Lewis - Western NC - Man is the only animal who blushes. Or needs to. -- Mark Twain

JimLewis- Member
Re: Would you bonsai a regular apple tree?
JimLewis wrote:I just bought the book from Amazon (who owns Abebooks now)
Awwww . . . Say it ain't SO! They swallowed bibliofind and now Abe Books? Are there any independent used bookstores on the web any more?
August 2008
http://techcrunch.com/2008/08/01/amazon-to-acquire-abebooks/
Poink88- Member
Re: Would you bonsai a regular apple tree?
One of the best search engines is www.addall.com Go into the "Used and rare" section, make sure all the affiliated websites are checked off at the lower section of the page and set the parameters of your search. You don't need complete titles and there are several ways to manipulate the search criteria.
I collect old books and there is none better to connect you with the book world.
John
I collect old books and there is none better to connect you with the book world.
John

Orion- Member
Re: Would you bonsai a regular apple tree?
Poink88 wrote:JimLewis wrote:I just bought the book from Amazon (who owns Abebooks now)
Awwww . . . Say it ain't SO! They swallowed bibliofind and now Abe Books? Are there any independent used bookstores on the web any more?
August 2008
http://techcrunch.com/2008/08/01/amazon-to-acquire-abebooks/
Hmmmm. Guess I've been asleep at the switch.
Orion, thanks for the link. My parents had a rare book and map shop in Santa Monica, CA when I was a little kid (Late 30s early 40s). The War put close to that enterprise, but they continued to collect after the store closed. Can be an expensive hobby.
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JimLewis- Member
Re: Would you bonsai a regular apple tree?
Check it out Jim, you can't go wrong. Happy Hunting

Orion- Member
Re: Would you bonsai a regular apple tree?
Check out Nick Lentz's book "Bonsai From the Wild"; about collecting certain North American indigenous trees. He devotes a whole chapter to wild apple trees. I think it is a "must read" for anyone who wants to grow apple tree bonsai. Your tree sounds like a dream tree!
Best,
Todd
Best,
Todd

Todd Ellis- Member
Re: Would you bonsai a regular apple tree?
Todd Ellis wrote:Check out Nick Lentz's book "Bonsai From the Wild"; about collecting certain North American indigenous trees. He devotes a whole chapter to wild apple trees. I think it is a "must read" for anyone who wants to grow apple tree bonsai. Your tree sounds like a dream tree!
Best,
Todd
Thanks Todd. I am afraid it is too late to get the book now, I am set to dig the tree this weekend. I hope I can get it with lots of roots intact. Any tips you can share until then to help increase the tree's chances of survival from being collected/transplanted will be much appreciated.
To be honest, I don't even know what an apple tree look like...I just went with what the home owner told me. The leaf and branch does match what I've seen online.
One thing I noticed. some branches have root ball forming around them, not long but a lot and most likely ready for cuttings...is this normal? or is this caused by some sickness/parasite/pest?
Poink88- Member
Re: Would you bonsai a regular apple tree?
Poink88 wrote: I am afraid it is too late to get the book now,
One thing I noticed. some branches have root ball forming around them
It is NEVER too late to get Nick Lenz's book......NEVER!
Branches with a root ball forming around them????? a picture would be helpful, but unless those particular branches are in direct contact with the ground those aren't root balls. Likely Galls.
-Jay

drgonzo- Member
Re: Would you bonsai a regular apple tree?
drgonzo wrote:It is NEVER too late to get Nick Lenz's book......NEVER!
Okay! I will get one. LOL
drgonzo wrote:Branches with a root ball forming around them????? a picture would be helpful, but unless those particular branches are in direct contact with the ground those aren't root balls. Likely Galls.
I will snap a pic later as I collect it. I am familiar with galls and I am 90% sure these are roots. I've seen similar in other plants before and just wondering if it is indicative of any problem. It looks like airlayering but the roots spiked and stopped at about 1/8" long all around (almost like what you will see around a bamboo node...only more).
It looks like this but almost all uniform length and dry looking...just waiting to be planted.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/chidorian/4520595150/in/photostream/
Poink88- Member
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