Fastest and Strongest Root System
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JimLewis
The Lad
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Fastest and Strongest Root System
hi All
Which outdoor Bonsai Trees has the fastest and Strongest Roots System
I have heard Of the Ficus Group and maybe the Trident Maple any other suggestion would be great to receive
I live in the Wirral Uk Zone 9 I believe)
thanks
Jim thelad
Which outdoor Bonsai Trees has the fastest and Strongest Roots System
I have heard Of the Ficus Group and maybe the Trident Maple any other suggestion would be great to receive
I live in the Wirral Uk Zone 9 I believe)
thanks
Jim thelad
The Lad- Member
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Elms. I just took apart an old planting of Catlin elms (a form of Chinese elm) that I recently purchased. Dainty trees with very fine leaves and branches, the largest trees about as big as my thumb. The roots, on the other hand, were fat and ropey. Looked like a pot full of snakes. My native cedar elm does the same thing.
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Russell Coker- Member
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Thanks Jim for replying
That was some amount of roots you took of your Maclura pomifera . Whats the roots like now in 2011
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Russell Thanks for replying I take it ALL Elms have the same sort of Root System I have a few Chinese Elms and maybe an English Elm Is There such a thing as a Japanese Elm !!!!!
That was some amount of roots you took of your Maclura pomifera . Whats the roots like now in 2011
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Russell Thanks for replying I take it ALL Elms have the same sort of Root System I have a few Chinese Elms and maybe an English Elm Is There such a thing as a Japanese Elm !!!!!
The Lad- Member
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The Lad wrote: Is There such a thing as a Japanese Elm !!!!!
Well, there's Zelkova or "gray bark elm", in Japanese it's "keyaki". They also had Chinese elms (parviflora), but referred to them as "nire keyaki". I don't know if they are indigenous or not but it wouldn't surprise me if they ranged into the southern parts of Japan. Lots of hornbeams too, but I don't recall seeing any true Japanese elm species. Good question!
Apparently there IS a Japanes elm - Ulmus davidiana var. Japonica, or Ulmus japonica. Can't say I saw it there, or have seen it here.
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Russell Coker- Member
Fastest and Strongest Root System
Hi Russell
I forgot The Zelkova I have been told one of my Hornbeans is a Japanese one but I know I do have a European Hornbean
Looks like I will have to do a search and have a look for images of a Japanes elm - Ulmus davidiana var. Japonica, or Ulmus japonica.
Thanks again
Jim thelad
I forgot The Zelkova I have been told one of my Hornbeans is a Japanese one but I know I do have a European Hornbean
Looks like I will have to do a search and have a look for images of a Japanes elm - Ulmus davidiana var. Japonica, or Ulmus japonica.
Thanks again
Jim thelad
The Lad- Member
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Jim, is your question just a general interest one or are you planning on acquiring one of the trees people mention in response? It's just that you mention "outdoor" trees.
I would suggest that Ficus is a no-no in the Wirral (in most places in the UK) as an outdoor tree, and Trident Maples will not survive a bad UK winter. (trust me - I'm speaking from real experience as I lost a favourite one because I didn't get it under cover quickly enough last winter). Don't know about Jim's Osage Orange but again I'd be wary.
Also remember that Jim and Russell live in parts of the world where they see a lot of that big yella thing in the sky. In fact their night time temperatures right now are higher than our mid-day ones!
We could always issue them with a challenge though: let's see if they can come over and grow olives outdoors in Motherwell. And not under Tam the local Bam's cannabis lamps either.
I would suggest that Ficus is a no-no in the Wirral (in most places in the UK) as an outdoor tree, and Trident Maples will not survive a bad UK winter. (trust me - I'm speaking from real experience as I lost a favourite one because I didn't get it under cover quickly enough last winter). Don't know about Jim's Osage Orange but again I'd be wary.
Also remember that Jim and Russell live in parts of the world where they see a lot of that big yella thing in the sky. In fact their night time temperatures right now are higher than our mid-day ones!
We could always issue them with a challenge though: let's see if they can come over and grow olives outdoors in Motherwell. And not under Tam the local Bam's cannabis lamps either.
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fiona- Member
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weeping willow - fastest growing root system in a pot of any bonsai i know - can need two repottings a year
that would be fastest root growth - strongest depends on your soil, fertiliser, conditions and husbandry - in correct conditions nearly all our natives are strong - and i find all scale type junipers bullet proof too
that would be fastest root growth - strongest depends on your soil, fertiliser, conditions and husbandry - in correct conditions nearly all our natives are strong - and i find all scale type junipers bullet proof too
marcus watts- Member
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In regard to someone's statement, osage orange grows here wild in lower Michigan, zone 5. No worse than -10F most of the time.
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Ed Spaans- Member
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The Lad wrote:Thanks Jim for replying
That was some amount of roots you took of your Maclura pomifera . Whats the roots like now in 2011
It's in a bigger pot now. I'm almost afraid to look, but I'll have to do it next winter.
JimLewis- Member
Fastest and Strongest Root System
Hi Everyone
First of thanks for all your replies and I will start of with Fiona's being the Young LADY well that's my excuse
Right Fiona I was asking the question in response to our as our almost 4 your old Grand-daughter as I am encouraging her to get involved in gardening and she always wants to get busy helping like all children at that age One Day last week she ask which bonsai grows the faster LEGS as she calls the Roots and i was snookered as I looked on line and like you say Fiona a lot depends where you live people will give you different Types of Bonsai trees in their region
So now it has me thinking if I wanted to embark on a project which tree what I use
The first time our grand-daughter got interested on her own accord was to start to clean to soil of a Ficus so i let her and ever since then she always wants to help with our bonsai Trees
Here is the first image of her
I agree with you Fiona the LACK of the Yellow Circle in the sky seems to stay away from our shores a lot
What a challenge people ofter Holiday homes SWOPS maybe someone could start up a Holiday Home Bonsai Care Swop the we all couls experience different weather temp for our Bonsai Trees
This is one of the latest images I have of MeeMee wanting to get involved helping with our trees
I know many would scring at the thought but our Tree will never be up to SHOW STANDARD but we enjoy them all and like to encourage all the Family got get involved being surrounded by ALL Females the little one is the most enthusiastic of the other 4 Girls and ladies
That all for now Gentlemen will get back to you all soon as We have a 15 day year old wanting attention and as the say " nobody should put BABY in a corner "
Take care all and thanks again
jim thelad
First of thanks for all your replies and I will start of with Fiona's being the Young LADY well that's my excuse
Right Fiona I was asking the question in response to our as our almost 4 your old Grand-daughter as I am encouraging her to get involved in gardening and she always wants to get busy helping like all children at that age One Day last week she ask which bonsai grows the faster LEGS as she calls the Roots and i was snookered as I looked on line and like you say Fiona a lot depends where you live people will give you different Types of Bonsai trees in their region
So now it has me thinking if I wanted to embark on a project which tree what I use
The first time our grand-daughter got interested on her own accord was to start to clean to soil of a Ficus so i let her and ever since then she always wants to help with our bonsai Trees
Here is the first image of her
I agree with you Fiona the LACK of the Yellow Circle in the sky seems to stay away from our shores a lot
What a challenge people ofter Holiday homes SWOPS maybe someone could start up a Holiday Home Bonsai Care Swop the we all couls experience different weather temp for our Bonsai Trees
This is one of the latest images I have of MeeMee wanting to get involved helping with our trees
I know many would scring at the thought but our Tree will never be up to SHOW STANDARD but we enjoy them all and like to encourage all the Family got get involved being surrounded by ALL Females the little one is the most enthusiastic of the other 4 Girls and ladies
That all for now Gentlemen will get back to you all soon as We have a 15 day year old wanting attention and as the say " nobody should put BABY in a corner "
Take care all and thanks again
jim thelad
The Lad- Member
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Jim son, you need to go to specsavers! Neither young nor a lady.The Lad wrote: ...I will start off with Fiona's being the Young LADY ...
I love the idea of a tree with "legs".
But to the task in hand: why not get her something that will grow quickly, be hardy and that you can surreptitiously "fix" if she doesn't quite get it right? You know, I'm thinking Potentilla here, and she would have nice flowers as well in the summer. You can get so many good "starter" plants from a garden centre and John Farrow used to have some really good ones that had been developed on quite a bit but which didn't cost the earth. And of course you've got Mr Warhurst, the Potentilla King nearby as well. The pruning and shaping will keep her and others busy all summer - I know mine do. You could even get a wee challenge going between all the siblings as you can get decent small potentillas in the garden centres. They could have one each. You could even persuade you Wirralite comrades to allow them to "show" them at Gordale next year with someone "judging" them.
Whatever you select, have fun - that's the really important bit.
fiona- Member
Fastest and Strongest Root System
Hi Fiona
Thanks for getting back to me NAW I have already been to Specsavers a few years ago before that i would probable would have said a Young Laddie But since i can see now to the end of my nose your a young LADY
Your suggestions about a Potentilla are good and I have just acquired one and a few cheap Chinese Elms that i am letting the wee lass loose on them. True We do have a few guys here with a soft spot for the Potentilla and Doug M was working on one at our last Sunday of the Month in July at GGC
At the moment i am surrounded by Females 5 in total from a few weeks old, then 4 years and the other 3 i better give their age away or i will be heading back up the M6 and across the border
We did have a few youngster at W-B-S but for some unknown reason they stopped attending but the idea of a Junior section sounds good to me
I agree with you we all need to enjoy our Bonsai and even pottering around the garden
Take care look after yourself and your Bonsai Trees
Jim thelad
Thanks for getting back to me NAW I have already been to Specsavers a few years ago before that i would probable would have said a Young Laddie But since i can see now to the end of my nose your a young LADY
Your suggestions about a Potentilla are good and I have just acquired one and a few cheap Chinese Elms that i am letting the wee lass loose on them. True We do have a few guys here with a soft spot for the Potentilla and Doug M was working on one at our last Sunday of the Month in July at GGC
At the moment i am surrounded by Females 5 in total from a few weeks old, then 4 years and the other 3 i better give their age away or i will be heading back up the M6 and across the border
We did have a few youngster at W-B-S but for some unknown reason they stopped attending but the idea of a Junior section sounds good to me
I agree with you we all need to enjoy our Bonsai and even pottering around the garden
Take care look after yourself and your Bonsai Trees
Jim thelad
The Lad- Member
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