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Post  Pavel Slovák Fri Dec 03, 2010 5:57 pm

Hi all.

Larch I saw my first in about 2004. Grew on the restaurant terrace in the concrete container. Only in 2006, I agreed with the owner of the restaurant and pick up a tree. In exchange for his work on his garden.When taking a closer view I took an interesting move in a number of branches. I decided to completely change the character of the tree.
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Post  Pavel Slovák Fri Dec 03, 2010 9:56 pm

Hi all.
The first styling, I worked in February 2009. Now I saw the second styling Larch.Improved design of the tree. Again, I left some extra branches in the spring will be reduced.

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more pict.: http://www.bonsaivigi.cz/fotoalbum/tvarovani-a-vyvoj---styling-and-development/modrin---terasa-2006
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Post  Neil Jaeger Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:07 pm

Another great tree Pavel. Good taper and nice branch selection. I just love larch.

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Post  Guest Sat Dec 04, 2010 12:19 am

very nicely done Pavel.

regards,
jun Smile

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Post  pongsatorn.k Sat Dec 04, 2010 1:05 am

interested tree!, I like Larch but look like it can not grow on my country Very Happy
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Post  gregb Sat Dec 04, 2010 2:45 am

Nice job on your larch, Pavel. I especially like the use of turkey ties to hold things in place--thought I was the only one doing that Idea

The long, thick branch towards the top on the left could be just a bit shorter--my opinion Wink

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Post  Russell Coker Sat Dec 04, 2010 4:05 am

Hi Pavel.

Another great tree, but I'm confused. When I saw the first picture of this tree before any work had been done I was really excited to see something completely different from any larch I've seen on this forum - what appears to be a true weeper. Granted, I know nothing about larches but isn't this something to work into the design instead of hiding it? Even in the second design pictures I see a unique tree still trying to weep, but instead you have done the usual Pavel wiring and styling job on it. Don't get me wrong, it's another BEAUTIFUL Pavel larch, just like all of the others. But why aren't you taking advantage of this tree's natural characteristics and let it be what it wants to be? Seems like you have a much more special and unique bonsai in the end if you'd work with this tree instead of against it.

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Post  Pavel Slovák Sat Dec 04, 2010 8:18 am

Hi Neil, Jun, pongsatorn.k and gregb

thank you very much for yours nice coment . Very Happy

Hi Russell - Thank you for your very interesting and constructive comments.
Yes, you're right, your way is probably a natural solution. Not just for larch. It can be used for most trees. For this I was attracted mainly larch trunk movement, and his line. There are lots of solutions. I am looking at a tree for themselves interesting and not always be of interesting clues that I want to show. In this case, strain, motion, taper of the tree. With such natural properties of larch here with me, rarely meet. It is not normal for me to find a tree. So I got this way. Wink Very Happy

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Post  Guest Sun Dec 05, 2010 5:03 pm

Hi Russell,

I kinda understand you comment as to styling the tree in its current form, but this would never of brought out the best in the material. If we simply collected raw material and style with 'minimum' intervention I guess we would not have many of the spectacular yamadori styled bonsai we see today.

One of the many joys of this strange art is that everyone sees something different in the raw material, and the best artists usually bring out the best in the material, styling the tree in sympathy with the tree in nature wherever possible. Pavels design LOOKS like a tree in the distance, the raw material... well... it's just a shrub and only 'tweeking' a few branches would still make it a shrub.

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Post  Guest Sun Dec 05, 2010 5:23 pm

I totally agree with your explanation Tony. Pavel has bought out the best in this tree and although it could be seen as "just another well styled Larch", it is much more dramatic than the weeping raw material he started with. A weeping style is much more than just wiring branches in a downwards direction anyway.

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Post  ogie Sun Dec 05, 2010 5:42 pm

Russell Coker wrote:Hi Pavel.

Another great tree, but I'm confused. When I saw the first picture of this tree before any work had been done I was really excited to see something completely different from any larch I've seen on this forum - what appears to be a true weeper. Granted, I know nothing about larches but isn't this something to work into the design instead of hiding it? Even in the second design pictures I see a unique tree still trying to weep, but instead you have done the usual Pavel wiring and styling job on it. Don't get me wrong, it's another BEAUTIFUL Pavel larch, just like all of the others. But why aren't you taking advantage of this tree's natural characteristics and let it be what it wants to be? Seems like you have a much more special and unique bonsai in the end if you'd work with this tree instead of against it.

Russell

Something to consider study it makes the lower trunk a bit stiff looking & straight,only my observation & opininon. Smile But you have done a good work
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Post  Russell Coker Sun Dec 05, 2010 5:47 pm

Sorry guys, I didn't mean for that to come off as "leave it as it was" in the first picture - yuck! Pavel's design is amazing, no doubt about that. Another case of "I didn't see THAT coming!!" I guess the point I was trying to make, but didn't succeed, was why not incorporate the weeping characteristics into the finished design? Good weeping bonsai are few and far between, I wish I had one! Seems to me that if this potential were realized this could be the standout in the entire larch collection - just my opinion.

If you'll look back, my question was...

"Even in the second design pictures I see a unique tree still trying to weep, but instead you have done the usual Pavel wiring and styling job on it. Don't get me wrong, it's another BEAUTIFUL Pavel larch, just like all of the others. But why aren't you taking advantage of this tree's natural characteristics and let it be what it wants to be? Seems like you have a much more special and unique bonsai in the end if you'd work with this tree instead of against it."

Ok, that's all.

R

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Post  Pavel Slovák Sun Apr 03, 2011 8:21 pm

Hi all

The tree has a new pot.

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Post  my nellie Sun Apr 03, 2011 10:41 pm

Mmmm.... to my taste the round pot of your other larch is much better, Pavel.
But on the other hand, two round pots may be boring Very Happy
I do like your larches very much!
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Post  moyogijohn Mon Apr 04, 2011 1:06 am

YOU,,,Have another nice tree there!! you all are so lucky to find trees like this to work with...your styleing is great good job take care john

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Post  Pavel Slovák Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:25 pm

Hi Alexandra and John
Thank you very much for nice replies. Very Happy
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Post  Vance Wood Wed Apr 06, 2011 8:22 pm

You are a blessed man to have the fortune of vision and skill to see and to work the artistic wonders you seem to pull out of nothing.

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Post  Jesse Thu Apr 07, 2011 3:24 pm

I love the way that tree looks after some growth and in its new pot.

Quite simply, it would be nice as a 'noob' bonsai admirer to write this 'find' off to chance and/or luck. However, I'm well aware as I look at the before and after pics that I am walking past little gems like this on at least a weekly basis. Hopefully one day I will acquire a sliver of the Bonsai vision you have Pavel. I am aware that part of this is an innate gift and part is a trained skill. Hopefully, I can at least gain the trained skill to some degree over time!
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Post  Mr. Moody Thu Apr 07, 2011 3:46 pm

I really like the work you done to this tree.

Someone mentioned shortening the long thick branch on the left, I kinda like the look of that branch there. It gives the tree a little character especially with the two shorter skinny "accent" branches underneath.

I really appreciate the work you experienced guys and gals do. As a rookie it isnt always easy to see the journey some trees have made to become the living art pieces they are. These progessions, and the discussions that follow, are very helpful.
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Post  mesabax Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:07 am

I think what you did with this tree is remarkable. It's a dramatic improvement. I'm not sure I like the pot though. Oh...what the hell is a turkey tie?

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Post  Pavel Slovák Fri Apr 08, 2011 7:19 pm

Hi Vance, Jesse, Mr. Moody and mesabax

Thank you very much for yours very nice replies and very nice compliments. I appreciate it. Very Happy Very Happy

Gretings Pavel
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Post  thomasj Fri Apr 08, 2011 7:46 pm

Hi Pavel,
Yes it is as you say that the tree does have some defects, but you did really good work with what you had to work with. Congratulations on a job well done. Very Happy
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