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Brazilian Rain Tree, different species...

Post  luciano benyakob on Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:39 pm

Friends, I would like to show two kinds of Pithecelobium, now called Cleroleucum.
The first one variety without thorns, which we call Fêmea or Female...









Without thorns...
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Post  luciano benyakob on Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:52 pm

The second, a variety most common in the Cerrado biome, Outland-Sertão and the Nordeste Coast.
Here is called: Jurema, Tataré, Jacaré or Dumoso, its scientific name is Cleroleucum Dumoso ...






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Post  luciano benyakob on Sat Mar 27, 2010 6:43 pm

Although we use only Tortum variety, there are several other similar species in the country.
http://bonsaistudio.forumvila.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4466
As shown in the post from our friend Chaddad ...
There are other varieties in different regions of Brazil ...
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Re: Brazilian Rain Tree, different species...

Post  John Quinn on Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:32 pm

Thanks...always like to see full sized examples of the trees we use for bonsai!

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Post  Jerry Meislik on Sun Mar 28, 2010 2:45 am

Lovely bark on these trees.
Thanks for posting this information.
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Re: Brazilian Rain Tree, different species...

Post  luciano benyakob on Sun Mar 28, 2010 4:53 pm

Conifers have few, but the family trees of the leguminosas ...
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Re: Brazilian Rain Tree, different species...

Post  Dustin Mann on Sun Mar 28, 2010 11:01 pm

Thank You for sharing photos and information about Braz. Raintrees. In my visits to Brazil I used to get so very confused looking at various trunks. I would mistake second one you posted for a Eucalyptus tree. Even the Tamarindus indica from a distance sometimes looked the same as Acacia. I would be in the car turning my head 180 degrees to look at trunks. Shabot Shalom to you. Dustin Mann

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Post  Marlon Machado on Mon Mar 29, 2010 7:12 pm

The generic delimitation of Pithecellobium and closely related genera - Albizia, Falcataria, Chloroleucon and Samanea - is notoriously complex, with species having been moved between the genera time and again, and probably will continue to do so.

There are several species of Pithecellobium in Brazil. the most well-known in bonsai is Pithecellobium tortum (now classified botanically as Chloroleucon tortum), the one Luciano showed us - a great species with fanstastic, angular stems and nice small leaves. In my region (Bahia state) there is another species, Pithecellobium diversifolium, a large shrub / small tree of semiarid areas with small leaves - I am testing the adaptability of this species to bonsai. Another great Pithecellobium found here is Pithecellobium dulce - it is great species for bonsai, with small leaves and very robust. I have many plants of this species in training. Pithecellobium dumosum (now Chloroleucon dumosum) is another native species that is commonly used by local bonsai enthusiasts.

Brazilian species still placed in the genus Pithecellobium:

Pithecellobium diversifolium Benth.
Pithecellobium dulce (Roxb.) Benth.
Pithecellobium glabripetalum Irwin
Pithecellobium roseum (Vahl) Barneby & J.W. Grimes

Brazilian species placed in the genus Chloroleucon:

Chloroleucon acacioides (Ducke) Barneby & J.W. Grimes
Chloroleucon dumosum (Benth.) G.P. Lewis
Chloroleucon extortum Barneby & J.W.Grimes
Chloroleucon foliolosum (Benth.) G.P.Lewis
Chloroleucon mangense (Jacq.) Britton & Rose
Chloroleucon mangense var. mathewsii (Benth.) Barneby & J. W. Grimes
Chloroleucon tenuiflorum (Benth.) Barneby & J. W. Grimes
Chloroleucon tortum (Mart.) Pittier

Brazilian species placed in the genus Albizia:

Albizia burkartiana Barneby & J.W.Grimes
Albizia decandra (Ducke) Barneby & J.W. Grimes
Albizia duckeana L.Rico
Albizia edwallii (Hoehne) Barneby & J. W. Grimes
Albizia glabripetala (H.S.Irwin) G.P.Lewis
Albizia inundata (Mart.) Barneby & J.W.Grimes
Albizia multiflora (Kunth) Barneby & J.W.Grimes
Albizia niopoides (Spruce ex Benth.) Burkart
Albizia pedicellaris (DC.) L.Rico
Albizia polycephala (Benth.) Killip ex Record
Albizia subdimidiata (Splitg.) Barneby & J.W.Grimes

Brazilian species placed in the genus Samanea:

Samanea inopinata (Harms) Barneby & J.W.Grimes
Samanea saman (Jacq.) Merr.
Samanea tubulosa (Benth.) Barneby & J. W. Grimes

Species of the genus Falcataria are not found in Brazil. Not all of the species listed above are good for bonsai - many have large leaves and are quite unsuitable, for instance all Samanea species. But besides the species of the Pithecellobium group, there are quite a few other native legume genera and species with good potential for bonsai - we Brazilians just need to start testing them! We have plenty of fantastic Calliandra species that make wonderful bonsai, like Calliandra depauperata and Calliandra spinosa, to mention just a couple of them.

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Re: Brazilian Rain Tree, different species...

Post  luciano benyakob on Tue Mar 30, 2010 12:37 am

Marlon, Good Night.
I took the liberty of posting this issue in our forum.
Although we are using the tree in art, just know it and its varieties.
Very good and educational ...
Below the species mentioned by you, worked for a friend born in Anagé, Ba.


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Re: Brazilian Rain Tree, different species...

Post  Marlon Machado on Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:31 pm

Hi Luciano,

I sent you a PM.

Cheers,

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Re: Brazilian Rain Tree, different species...

Post  luciano benyakob on Tue Mar 30, 2010 11:56 pm

Marlon, I have read and answered
Thanks for the attention ..
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Re: Brazilian Rain Tree, different species...

Post  Chaddad on Thu Apr 01, 2010 1:44 pm

Dear Luciano,

You can post a photo close of Choroleucon over rock, the second plant, left to right in your photo?

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Re: Brazilian Rain Tree, different species...

Post  luciano benyakob on Thu Apr 01, 2010 3:48 pm

Chaddad, Here all the process...
luciano benyakob wrote:De novo a Tatarena...
Ezequiel Pessoa Wrote:

Árvore em 2006 após cerca de dois anos plantada no solo...

Primeira estilização em 2006...

Árvore no final de 2006...

árvore em 2007 - podada e em vaso de cerâmica...

Árvore em 2009...

Final de 2009 - Vista lateral direita e vaso novo...

Final de 2009 - Vista lateral esquerda...

Final de 2009 - Vista traseira...

Árvore no início de 2010. Em treinamento!!!
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Post  luciano benyakob on Thu Apr 01, 2010 4:08 pm

luciano benyakob wrote:Outra possibilidade com esta planta maravilhosa...
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2005, o comêço...

2006,Treinamento...

2007, Terinamento...

Ainda em 2008...

Abril de 2009...

Dezembro de 2009 - com o vaso no estilo proposto por Valdir Hobbus!!!

Árvore em Janeiro de 2010...
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