Avant-garde Bonsai?

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Avant-garde Bonsai?

Post  mike page on Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:54 pm

I've been working on this California Juniper for a few years trying to distill it down to it's essence, which I hope will be "avant-garde".
To achieve that end, a pot that completes the image is necessary. As I write this post, Dale Cochoy is making a pot that I have high hopes for. I have a feeling that the traditionalists will not be happy with the final product. If that is the case, then I may have succeeded in my effort.
Dale, hows the pot coming? I await with great anticipation.

The tree stands 34 inches tall from the pot rim.

Mike



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Re: Avant-garde Bonsai?

Post  Ed Trout on Tue Jan 26, 2010 9:22 pm

Mike,

I consider myself a traditionalist when it comes to bonsai, mainly because that is how I was taught, and it is what I enjoy looking at. Having said that, I really like this tree ! It captures the essence of bunjin-gi....movement, balance, with grace. How different is the new pot compared to this one ? ( which looks like a Cochoy pot ? )

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Re: Avant-garde Bonsai?

Post  mike page on Tue Jan 26, 2010 9:43 pm

Hi Ed
Thanks for your comments.
The current pot is from Houtoku. The image is a virtual of a small pot Dale made that I Photoshopped to enlarge and put the tree in. I think the pot Dale is making for me will be very similar to this one. As each is a one-off, the finished product may be a bit different, but will make the image I'm looking for.

Mike


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Re: Avant-garde Bonsai?

Post  bonsaistud on Wed Jan 27, 2010 7:33 pm

G'day Mike...Marvelous tree...both pots work for me, however, my leaning is toward the virtual...

Great work again my friend...

Pat...mounted on my trusty steed riding off, wildly, in all directions.


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Re: Avant-garde Bonsai?

Post  mike page on Wed Jan 27, 2010 7:46 pm

Thanks Pat.
I'm looking forward to getting the pot and doing the transplant. I'll post the result as soon as the deed is done.

Mike

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Re: Avant-garde Bonsai?

Post  bonsaistud on Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:29 pm

For a minute ther Mike, I thought you had "grafted" your award winner to a new trunk...? ThumbsUp

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Re: Avant-garde Bonsai?

Post  Cordon on Wed Jan 27, 2010 11:07 pm

I like your tree. I don't know if I'd call it avant garde though. I seem to remember seeing something quite similar to this in Naka's book.

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Re: Avant-garde Bonsai?

Post  clrosner on Wed Jan 27, 2010 11:23 pm

Hi Mike:
I will be looking for the new pot. I have several pots that Dale had made for me, they are always the top of the line in looks and quality!

Fondest regards,
Carl

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Re: Avant-garde Bonsai?

Post  clrosner on Wed Jan 27, 2010 11:24 pm

Sorry Mike, I should have signed the last post differently!

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Re: Avant-garde Bonsai?

Post  Ed Trout on Thu Jan 28, 2010 12:03 am

Mike,

Wonderful Dale pot in the virtual, but maybe just a tad larger ? Many years ago, we could get a literati/bunjin pot from Japan that was referred to as "primitive". They were round with irregular shapes, sometimes "dented" or deformed along their circumference. I really liked them & owned a couple for a while. As much as you may not want to hear this, I think that you have a traditional style ( avant guard maybe ), AND a very similar tree is in one of John Naka's books. It would look much better on a bonsai bench in South Florida !!!!!!! I'll pay shipping ??


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Re: Avant-garde Bonsai?

Post  Dale Cochoy on Thu Jan 28, 2010 4:15 pm

Mike,
I made three pots, 2 along these lines but w/ changes,
can't do the same one twice Very Happy
all 3 are dry,
waiting to bisque
but, I'm really pushing that 3" depth!
( start trimming roots! Very Happy )
No pics until done.

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Re: Avant-garde Bonsai?

Post  mike page on Thu Jan 28, 2010 10:32 pm

Thanks all for your comments.
Ed, my juniper has lived in California for hundreds of years, 30+ in my back yard. Going all the way to Florida to live may be too much of a shock for this old home-boy tree.
To add a little history to the post, the image is a sketch by the great John Naka at a 1980 workshop. Sorry John, but I didn't follow your direction with this tree. Guess I'm too damn independent.


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Re: Avant-garde Bonsai?

Post  EdMerc on Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:39 pm

Oh yeah, I see where you veered off a bit from the drawing. Shocked

Great tree. I really like it.

--- EDIT EDIT EDIT --->
It was in Craig Coussins book I saw a similar tree sketched. My mistake.

Nevertheless, great tree.


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Re: Avant-garde Bonsai?

Post  Rob Kempinski on Fri Jan 29, 2010 2:23 am

John Naka's sketch for the tree was very sweet. That would have been a great bonsai.

But if you look at page 250 of John Naka's book 2 you see something similar. Round pot BTW.

One can forget about California Juniper growing in FLorida. A fellow clubmember tried one and the humidity appears to have done it in.

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Re: Avant-garde Bonsai?

Post  sitarbonsai on Fri Jan 29, 2010 2:32 am

Rob Kempinski wrote:John Naka's sketch for the tree was very sweet. That would have been a great bonsai.

But if you look at page 250 of John Naka's book 2 you see something similar. Round pot BTW.

One can forget about California Juniper growing in FLorida. A fellow clubmember tried one and the humidity appears to have done it in.

That's to bad, California Juniper is such a beautiful species.
I guess I'll have to move to Cali Very Happy

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