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Post  Mario Stefano on Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:12 pm

I want to introduce you to the vessel which is designed based on tested recipe blends of newspaper paper and white cement.
In them I have a few of my Yamadori. >yamadori link


41x28x4 cm


42x32x13 cm


57x42x14 cm


24x10 cm


more photos blog link

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Post  Carolee on Tue Feb 17, 2009 11:51 pm

Interesting. Can you explain the 'recipe'? Thanks.

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Post  Mario Stefano on Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:15 am

Carolee wrote:Interesting. Can you explain the 'recipe'? Thanks.

More about 'recipe'na links

>IBF

>MYB

thanks

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Post  TreeKiller64 on Sun Mar 08, 2009 3:29 pm

Hey Mario,
Did you have to leach out the "chemicals" prior to using the pots?
I like the last one personally. (round)
i have tried to use a Concrete Tufa recipe, for pots. I had to make the forms and such.
I had decent results. Looks like your results are fine.
KJ of Zone 5

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Post  Mario Stefano on Thu Oct 15, 2009 12:30 pm

a few more ...



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Post  Mario Stefano on Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:27 pm

..new trening pot...




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Post  Guest on Thu Dec 31, 2009 4:01 pm

Excellent pots Mario, how frost resistant are they?

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Post  Mario Stefano on Thu Dec 31, 2009 4:14 pm

will baddeley wrote:Excellent pots Mario, how frost resistant are they?

Thank you. I will soon publish this article abouth the pot in English. There will be all writen. On the photo are pots that have withstood the 5-10 winters.



After the color adjustments, will manage another 5 years for sure!



Colore will lost the glove!

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Post  bumblebee on Fri Jan 01, 2010 6:50 am

How have you made so many beautiful shapes? Molds?

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Post  Mario Stefano on Fri Jan 01, 2010 9:37 am

bumblebee wrote:How have you made so many beautiful shapes? Molds?

Libby

Thanks Libby

Some of the pot I wanted to make from my ideas and mold them I made a base model in the styrofoam that I overlaid a paper concrete and so got mold.







Some of the same technique I copied the finished pot ...


And some I have made a negative impression of Styrofoam ...


When I went to do a pot of paper cement, in any all, I've seen mold or dish, just as in every tree in nature, see bonsai or just want to see ... It is important to begin, the ideas come as a flood, at least for me!

... I believe that I responded well, actually I was hard, my knowledge transfer in English.
Greetings and all the best in 2010
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Post  irene_b on Fri Jan 01, 2010 10:08 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sddOnjZhL0

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Post  Mario Stefano on Fri Jan 01, 2010 10:36 am

One cold morning in my basement, from the rest of the raw materials, I formed a pot ... Smile please!


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Post  AlainK on Fri Jan 01, 2010 5:03 pm

Very interesting.

Your pots are really great, and your enthusiasm very communicative.

I took the liberty to post the link to this discussion on two French forums.

I also search for more info on papercrete on the web, and it came to me that I might build a cold frame for some of my plants for the next winter: though the figures about its insulation qualities are sometimes debated, it seems it is a very good thermic material.

Bonne Année, Sretna Nova Godina, Happy new Year !

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Post  peter krebs on Fri Jan 01, 2010 5:18 pm

Hi Mario,

Your pots look very good. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

You have the discipline of a good potter,
and at the last photo you already look like a hard-working potters.

I wish you good luck with your work.

regards
Peter

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Post  Mario Stefano on Fri Jan 01, 2010 6:22 pm

AlainK wrote:Very interesting.

Your pots are really great, and your enthusiasm very communicative.

I took the liberty to post the link to this discussion on two French forums.

I also search for more info on papercrete on the web, and it came to me that I might build a cold frame for some of my plants for the next winter: though the figures about its insulation qualities are sometimes debated, it seems it is a very good thermic material.

Bonne Année, Sretna Nova Godina, Happy new Year !

Thank you
Send me a link to the French forum, where you sent it, I'm interested in hearing.
Stupidity is any discussion about the bad sides of these pots. The combination of paper and cement is strong enough to withstand the fall from 2m height. May be forever submerged in the water ... The only bad side is a very sudden change in temperature of minus, but the pot will not break, there may be peeling layer, but this is rare. Someone mentioned the bad compounds of cement that can affect the plant, it's nonsense ... My trees grow very well in these pots.
I used your post for the answer to all those who cherish suspicion, and not directly to you, because I see that you understand what it is ... do not resent me, and I wish you success in work. I will soon publish an article in English!
Hello and Happy New Year!
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Post  Mario Stefano on Fri Jan 01, 2010 6:28 pm

peter krebs wrote:Hi Mario,

Your pots look very good. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

You have the discipline of a good potter,
and at the last photo you already look like a hard-working potters.

I wish you good luck with your work.

regards
Peter

Thank you
Your answer here, for me is like the Pope blessed the faithful! cheers
Regards
Mario

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Post  bumblebee on Fri Jan 01, 2010 7:04 pm

You not only make great pots, but you photograph your process, translate into English and publish your results! I am very impressed!

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Post  AlainK on Sat Jan 02, 2010 10:05 am

The first forum where I posted is mainly for beginners, but I like it a lot because there is a very friendly atmosphere, no ranting about off-topic concerns, etc. :

Agora Bonsai

The second one is , in my opinion, the best French bonsai forum :

Esprits de Goshin

A friend posted a reply, linking to his club's forum, where 'Hrvat' posted photos of his pots :

Bonsai Club de Lévis St Nom

In the second forum, there is also a link to a fourth forum about a workshop they did on making pots with this technique, but you can't see the photos if you are not registered. I usually never go there because it's full of SMS languages, of-colour jokes and the like. Since the user name of the guy who suggested it is "Hrvat", I suspect he got his inspiration from somewhere else... silent

Here is the link to the 26 pages of not-always-relevant comments on what, on the other hand, seems to be a very good initiative :

Parlons Bonsai

Keep up the good work, Mario ! Wink

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Re: Homemade pots

Post  Joao Santos on Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:12 pm

Hi Mario,

I've tryed to do some pots but seems that something is missing...
I've made them about one month ago and they haven't dry yet.
Also the texture is more like soft rubber (I can bend them with my fingers..) Is it normal? Do you get the strength after dry completly aplying the glaze?

I've made 3 in diferent sizes just to try the tecnique and used 50% of newspaper and 50% of ciment.
And did all the same as you: leaving the paper 24H in water, crush them, mix the ciment and aply to the mold...

Please give me your opinion

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Post  Mario Stefano on Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:24 pm

Joao Santos wrote:Hi Mario,

I've tryed to do some pots but seems that something is missing...
I've made them about one month ago and they haven't dry yet.
Also the texture is more like soft rubber (I can bend them with my fingers..) Is it normal? Do you get the strength after dry completly aplying the glaze?

I've made 3 in diferent sizes just to try the tecnique and used 50% of newspaper and 50% of ciment.
And did all the same as you: leaving the paper 24H in water, crush them, mix the ciment and aply to the mold...

Please give me your opinion

João Santos

Hi Joao

Cement is crystallized after 14 days and become fixed. It does not matter whether it is wet or dry. Everything you wrote seems well made. Difficult to say more. Send photos and newspapers that you use a mixture of newspapers before mixing with cement.

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Post  Joao Santos on Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:21 pm

Hi Mario

Here are the photos:


And one smaller that I made covering a small lasagna tray


As I didn't have any mold, I've done it this way
http://www.atelierdobonsai.com.br/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5535

Meanwhile the bigger broke itsef because beeing so weak

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Post  Mario Stefano on Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:50 pm

Joao Santos wrote:
Hi Mario
Here are the photos:

Wooden mold, took the necessary moisture for the crystallisation cement. Mold can not drink the water! If the wooden mold is the only option, you need to varnish it or paint over oil. I do not use wooden molds, it is not good!

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Post  littleart-fx on Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:52 pm

Well "hello" Mario (could be a song!)

Love them pots and texture,....
They do seem to have another attitude as kiln fired ones witch is good!

Question, how do the colours last in time.
I have been doing collaring on and in cement base types

Within (the material) colours don't last,....
With-on (outside) colours last but have to be maintained over the years,....

Cement based pots did hold tempretures of -15 degrees and a bit more where i have seen them (holland)!

Keep up the good work, and would love to meet ya!

And of course sincerely your'se Machiel,

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Post  Mario Stefano on Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:53 pm

Hi Joao This mold is of the same material as the pot. Inside is coated paint for concrete. This business is a very thorough preparation. No good results quickly.


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Post  Mario Stefano on Sun Feb 07, 2010 8:04 pm

Hi Machiel
Thanks to the post. Must paint pot and a wooden window, after the 3-5 winter. I use paint for wood, more durable than the color of cement!
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