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Post  BobbyLane on Tue Sep 09, 2014 11:35 pm

My new English Elm informal upright, Its been in this tub for three years after being collected. Going to pot it up in spring, its been heavily fed and the leaves are huge, they should reduce once it goes into a pot. any comments welcome..






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Re: Ulmus Minor/ European Field elm

Post  Poink88 on Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:15 am

Very nice tree.

I'd remove the lowest left branch (inside the curve branch) now if this is mine.

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Post  JimLewis on Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:22 pm

That probably would be good as a back branch, Dario. It's nice to see something other than Chinese elm on occasion. When you repot, I think I'd put it a bit deeper. This could end up a stunning tree.

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Post  Guest on Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:58 pm

Hi Bobbylane

I like your tree...I would do as Dario say, take out the branch in the curve, if it is the front you show us.

A English elm is a ulmus procera....a ulmus minor is a Ulmus carpinifolia.

the sice of the leaves tell me, it is a procera...or?

kind regards Yvonne

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Re: Ulmus Minor/ European Field elm

Post  BobbyLane on Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:33 pm

Hi and thanks folks, I appreciate the comments.
Im in agreement about the first left branch, not only is it inside the curve, its also bar branching with the first right branch...I considered Jim's suggestion of wiring it back, but it will still be in line with the first right branch, I'll wait until leaf drop to assess the structure better.

Yvonne, I also thought English Elm was Ulmus Procera, but the seller advised me that the Procera has smaller leaves than Minor...and I was reading a thread from another forum recently and someone said that Procera has now become minor, so im a little confused, then on Wiki it says that Minor is a field elm.
Ok the leaf on the left is from my Ulmus procera and the leaf in the middle is from what im told is Minor and the leaf on the far right is new growth from the said Minor. the massive leaf size in the middle is from what i was told a heavy feeding regime, note the new growth is much smaller.
ive also just noticed that my Procera leaf is more pointed than the other two..


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Re: Ulmus Minor/ European Field elm

Post  BobbyLane on Wed Sep 10, 2014 5:25 pm

Did some research, my tree is in fact a field Elm/Ulmus minor

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Post  Guest on Wed Sep 10, 2014 7:04 pm

BobbyLane wrote:Did some research, my tree is in fact a field Elm/Ulmus minor

Seeing the last photo from your previus reply, I was just about to say the same...you was faster Smile

Kind regards yvonne

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Re: Ulmus Minor/ European Field elm

Post  BobbyLane on Thu Nov 27, 2014 2:26 pm

Hi folks..

Here's a shot after leaf drop, light prune, minimal wiring and reduction of heavy, second left sided branch...


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Post  Guest on Thu Nov 27, 2014 3:55 pm

Beautiful movement in the trunk!

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Post  Zach Smith on Thu Nov 27, 2014 6:29 pm

BobbyLane wrote:Hi folks..

Here's a shot after leaf drop, light prune, minimal wiring and reduction of heavy, second left sided branch...

Very nice elm!

Zach

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Re: Ulmus Minor/ European Field elm

Post  BobbyLane on Thu Nov 27, 2014 10:55 pm

Thanks for the comments, the canopy will be developed over the coming seasons along with fine ramification throughout the tree...

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Re: Ulmus Minor/ European Field elm

Post  Richard S on Thu Nov 27, 2014 11:02 pm

Excellent tree! It already looks good and it should just keep on getting better.

Regards

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Post  JudyB on Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:41 pm

Hi Richard, very nice looking elm, great movement, and very much like the uro. Have you chosen a pot yet for this? Would love to see what you are going to put it on.

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Post  BobbyLane on Fri Nov 28, 2014 5:44 pm

Cheers Richard, Thanks Judy.....

I thinned out the canopy today and put some movement into the second left sided branch that is opposite another, its rising upwards now....



I have this China mist pot the tree will go into in spring:


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Post  JudyB on Fri Nov 28, 2014 7:06 pm

That should look very nice in that pot. Killer tree.

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Post  Todd Ellis on Fri Nov 28, 2014 10:14 pm

I like everything about this tree. Nice job on the carving too. The pot is tops!

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Re: Ulmus Minor/ European Field elm

Post  BobbyLane on Thu Apr 02, 2015 11:55 pm

Little update, this was repotted three weeks ago, still lots to do on this in terms of ramification, but the primary branching is set..



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Post  steveb on Fri Apr 03, 2015 1:12 am

Looks great in that pot. Once it fills out it will be a stunning tree. Thanks for sharing.

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Post  yamasuri on Sat Apr 04, 2015 1:07 pm

Very strong potential...nice trunk line fits nicely to pot. Thanks for sharing. Keep us update. thumbs up

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Post  Richard S on Sat Apr 04, 2015 7:33 pm

Very nice tree, developing well. I like it a lot.

The pots great too!

One question though, do you see this as the final position for the tree in that pot? Obviously you'll have a vision for the future and only you know exactly how you envisage the branch/foliage development but as it stands I would have tried to place the tree further to the right.

Mind you, I'm no expert so that might just be me.

Great potential anyway.

Cheers

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Post  misfit1 on Sat Apr 04, 2015 9:47 pm

Richard S wrote:Very nice tree, developing well. I like it a lot.

One question though, do you see this as the final position for the tree in that pot? Obviously you'll have a vision for the future and only you know exactly how you envisage the branch/foliage development but as it stands I would have tried to place the tree further to the right.

I agree. The planting angle you had in the grow pot suited the tree better, in my opinion. As it is in the bonsai pot the trunk base is too straight and it give the impression of unbalance as it is heavier to the left. Tilting the tree to the right at the next repot would help it a lot.

Nonetheless, it is on its way to becoming a very nice tree. I like the pot very much.

Cory

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Post  BobbyLane on Sun Apr 05, 2015 9:48 pm

Thanks for all the comments....This new angle just kind of grew on me and i think it looks more powerful from this view, the tree looks to have more taper with the first angle though, i like both angles and could maybe turn it again in the future, i even thought about a round pot for it. a couple others also said it looks a little unbalanced, but i planted it more left because the plan is to have the first right branch extend to the edge of the pot and the canopy will be much fuller and wider. i think it will appear more in balance then..

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Post  yamasuri on Mon Apr 06, 2015 5:52 am

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but i planted it more left because the plan is to have the first right branch extend to the edge of the pot and the canopy will be much fuller and wider. i think it will appear more in balance then..

This was also in my mind that's why I didn't coment position of the tree in pot

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Re: Ulmus Minor/ European Field elm

Post  BobbyLane on Mon Jan 11, 2016 9:07 pm

Hi folks, just a quick updated image of my Ulmus Campestre after wiring and some deadwood work done a few weeks ago








This one still has a lot of growing to do, will update again later in the year, Thanks

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Re: Ulmus Minor/ European Field elm

Post  Eric Group on Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:55 pm

BobbyLane wrote:Hi folks, just a quick updated image of my Ulmus Campestre after wiring and some deadwood work done a few weeks ago








This one still has a lot of growing to do, will update again later in the year, Thanks
Nice tree Bobby!

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