Ulmus Minor/ European Field elm

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Re: Ulmus Minor/ European Field elm

Post  Leo Schordje on Mon Jan 18, 2016 4:33 pm

I love the work you have done. Love the roots, nebari, the dead wood, the open hollow, all the details.

Really nice tree.

Except one item, that may be my personal taste. If it were my tree, I don't like the angle of the first segment in relation to the pot. From your front, it comes up at a 90 degree angle from the soil line. The first segment looks like the start of a formal upright. It gives a sense that it is not part of the whole tree. Somewhat disconcerting.

Now I realize this tree, and its well developed nebari is past the point where you could change the planting angle much. But perhaps you could change the image by choosing a different "front" for the tree. One of this side views would be a better "front" in terms of unifying the top half of the tree with the gnarly, nebari.

Just my personal taste. I know it would be too difficult to change the planting angle significantly. Perhaps a slight change in planting angle, combined with a rotation of the tree would do the trick.

Just my 2 cents. I would be proud to own this tree, it is a very nice composition overall.
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Re: Ulmus Minor/ European Field elm

Post  BobbyLane on Mon Jan 18, 2016 7:43 pm

Cheers Leo for your comments, i understand what your saying about the tree going up and then bending away, ive never really looked at it like that.
The planting angle can indeed be changed, but for now it will establish and develop as it is for a few years without re potting. because tbh i still dont know what the front of the tree is, i enjoy viewing it from all angles.
it sits on a rotating plate on my balcony and i turn it all the time, this is my current favourite view, which is a slight change of what i chose as the front



But then from here it has more taper and flow but loses power and leans back a little, but that could change if tilted forward


a further rotation shows good taper, nice nebari spread and flow, but the branching needs to be developed and it needs one or two branches to sprout from the right side of the trunk, maybe this is a potential 'primary view' Wink



i like the tree from here too, but its obviously leaning away


so yeh, it just needs some time to develop, will update later in year, thanks for the comments everyone.
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Re: Ulmus Minor/ European Field elm

Post  kevin stoeveken on Tue Jan 19, 2016 12:47 pm

damn bobby... all these replies and i cant even see the pics you posted here and your other threads Crying or Very sad
(web filter here at work)

are you posting pics someway other than the forum's photo host ?
(the forum hosted ones seem to get thru the filter...)

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Re: Ulmus Minor/ European Field elm

Post  BobbyLane on Tue Jan 19, 2016 2:59 pm

Not sure why you can't see them, if i log out i can still see them even from my phone, you can see my latest pics ive posted on my Flickr account in my sig.
I use photobucket to host the pics but some of the URL were copied/pasted from threads on another forum, that maybe why. but photobucket is such a pain and so frustratingly slow im not doing it all again even the images dont resize properly at times, so will update in spring, but next time ill do them all directly from photobucket Smile

Sorry buddy
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Re: Ulmus Minor/ European Field elm

Post  kevin stoeveken on Tue Jan 19, 2016 6:04 pm

no sweat bobby... i dont imagine i'm the only one with an issue...
photobucket is a "dirty" site and that explains why i cant see them...
(by "dirty" i mean spammy...)

if photobucket is slow and frustrating it is because they want you there longer to generate ad revenue

the photo hosting site within this forum is pretty hassle free

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Re: Ulmus Minor/ European Field elm

Post  BobbyLane on Wed Jan 20, 2016 12:02 am

I wonder if you can see them now? took the lock off a few albums, not sure if this was the reason...

Cheers
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Re: Ulmus Minor/ European Field elm

Post  kevin stoeveken on Wed Jan 20, 2016 12:38 pm

nope !
still nothing...

BUT i had some time at home last night (no filter) and perused the pictures...
and i gotta say i too really dig it and it looks like nice work on your part !

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Rebuilding the crown and searching for best flow to trunkline

Post  BobbyLane on Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:30 pm



Last edited by BobbyLane on Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:41 am; edited 1 time in total
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Re: Ulmus Minor/ European Field elm

Post  BobbyLane on Thu Sep 15, 2016 5:21 pm

This one underwent a few changes since the last post. potting angle is a lot better and the tree looks more stable and grounded. i cringe at the earlier photos, thanks for the suggestions everyone. part of the apex also died off and a lower branch wired up as a leader. still, its grown well this summer and winter will reveal the work ive been doing...

IMG_2386 by Bobby Lane, on Flickr
IMG_2387 by Bobby Lane, on Flickr
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Still evolving

Post  BobbyLane on Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:45 am

Here's an update

July 2017
IMG_5103 by Bobby Lane, on Flickr

Sept 2017
IMG_5457 by Bobby Lane, on Flickr
IMG_5471 by Bobby Lane, on Flickr

Future plans will be to get more foliage over the front of the trunk
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Re: Ulmus Minor/ European Field elm

Post  Vlad on Thu Nov 09, 2017 2:38 pm

Very nice elm with a great trunk movement, Bobby. Do you have any special reason to cover the trunk by the foliage?
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Re: Ulmus Minor/ European Field elm

Post  BobbyLane on Thu Nov 09, 2017 3:55 pm

Hi Vlad, im striving to create a tree as it would appear in nature.. foliage covering the trunk usually from all angles, i dont want to cover the trunk entirely but obscure it so the trunk line is still visible through the foliage, Just a matter of training a couple branches into the empty spaces really and developing the crown
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Re: Ulmus Minor/ European Field elm

Post  AlainK on Thu Nov 09, 2017 6:27 pm

It's becoming really nice!

You know I'm not a fan of dead wood, but this one looks really natural: I love it Cool
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