Can you ID this little-red-fruit tree??

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Can you ID this little-red-fruit tree??

Post  Ahuehuete on Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:47 am

Hi everyone.
can you help me to Id this tree,
this extrange tree is growing beside a small river in the middle of the mountains, I haven't seen a lot of this trees, in fact it is the first tree of this kind that I see.
I asked for the name, and I google it in but I could find the scientific name.
I would appreciate if you could help with the scientific name please.
thanks!!!




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Re: Can you ID this little-red-fruit tree??

Post  milehigh_7 on Wed Apr 03, 2013 6:06 am

Yes it appears to be a skittle tree. clown

Sorry. Embarassed Just having fun... Neutral


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Re: Can you ID this little-red-fruit tree??

Post  JimLewis on Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:29 pm

That wasn't very helpful.

I can't really tell whether the fruit are growing on the vine or on the tree.

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Re: Can you ID this little-red-fruit tree??

Post  Ahuehuete on Wed Apr 03, 2013 6:15 pm

the fruits are definetely growing on the tree.

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Re: Can you ID this little-red-fruit tree??

Post  Andrew Legg on Wed Apr 03, 2013 6:54 pm

I'm gonna hazard a guess at some kind of coffee bush. Shocked

The fruit looks about right, but not the leaves . . . scratch

How big are the leaves and fruits?

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Could it be a Jaboticaba?

Post  Guest on Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:17 pm

Hi, I don't post much, but check daily! The tree "almost" looks like my Jaboticaba would look if
mine was in fruit. It's very similar but I don't think that it's 100% match.
The bark is different....
Nice fruit though!

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Post  Leo Schordje on Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:03 pm

perhaps it is a Eugenia, there is a species native to Mexico. 'Acerola' is one of the common names for it. Cherry of the Rio Grande is another name for it. Don't let common names confuse you, it is not a 'true' cherry, not a Prunus.

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Post  Ahuehuete on Thu Apr 04, 2013 5:50 am

unfortunately it is not a coffe bush, acerola neither jaboticaba.

the seize of the fruits is in average from 8mm to 1cm
the leaves mesure from 4 cm to 5cm.

I took some seeds because I want tto grow a tree, I think it would look nice as a bonsai Very Happy

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Re: Can you ID this little-red-fruit tree??

Post  Andre Beaurain on Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:54 am


Prunus serotia......the Black Cherry.



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Re: Can you ID this little-red-fruit tree??

Post  Guest on Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:33 pm

Andre Beaurain wrote:
Prunus serotia......the Black Cherry.
Love and light

NO, NOT prunus serotina... the leaves dont look serrated to me AND the 'cherries' would have to be on a long flowering stem, which i dont see here.
So that makes it impossible.

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Post  RoweZan on Thu Apr 04, 2013 2:03 pm

Could be in a family of Murraya

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Post  Andre Beaurain on Thu Apr 04, 2013 3:45 pm

yves71277 wrote:
Andre Beaurain wrote:
Prunus serotia......the Black Cherry.
Love and light

NO, NOT prunus serotina... the leaves dont look serrated to me AND the 'cherries' would have to be on a long flowering stem, which i dont see here.
So that makes it impossible.


What!.... Yves 71277 ,you need glasses sweetie!

You wanne tell me this is not a Match?....

Fruit..

Leaves....

Bark.....


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Post  Andre Beaurain on Thu Apr 04, 2013 3:48 pm

O I forgot to say....check out the Red petiole....


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Re: Can you ID this little-red-fruit tree??

Post  Ahuehuete on Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:42 pm

Black cherry was almost a match, unfortunately It isn't the correct tree.
Yves 71277 is right the fruits wold have to be in along flowering stem, I'll post another foto so you can see how the fruits look from the distance.



besides I found another diference, the little stem that joins the fruit to the tree is diferent. In the blck cherry is covers a part of the fruit. It looks like a little flower, but in this tree is smaller not like a flower and it's divided in 3 parts. (the 2 two circles below)
finally I don't know if blck cherry has thorns but this tree does. I circled one thorn, it is the one above.




thanks for taking the time to check out!



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Re: Can you ID this little-red-fruit tree??

Post  rockm on Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:55 pm

Try Western Soapberry tree--sapindus drummondii...???

http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/ornamentals/natives/sapindusdrummondii.htm

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Re: Can you ID this little-red-fruit tree??

Post  rockm on Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:57 pm

Could also be an invasive chinaberry...Melia azedarach:

http://www.texasinvasives.org/plant_database/detail.php?symbol=MEAZ

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Re: Can you ID this little-red-fruit tree??

Post  Guest on Thu Apr 04, 2013 8:22 pm

Andre Beaurain wrote:
yves71277 wrote:
Andre Beaurain wrote:
Prunus serotia......the Black Cherry.
Love and light

NO, NOT prunus serotina... the leaves dont look serrated to me AND the 'cherries' would have to be on a long flowering stem, which i dont see here.
So that makes it impossible.


What!.... Yves 71277 ,you need glasses sweetie!

You wanne tell me this is not a Match?....

Fruit..


Leaves....

Bark.....


Love and light
yes i say this is a non-match... and the pictures of the poster are not as clear as yours.
if you cant see the berries are NOT on long flowering stems, then try looking at the leaf nerves to see another obvious difference, compare those of your pics with the pics of the posters' and count em.

no need to shout at people and tell em they are sweeties that need glasses Wink

we only need the poster to give us a bit more info, and preferrably more pics

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Re: Can you ID this little-red-fruit tree??

Post  Ahuehuete on Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:03 pm

no, it is not soapberry beacause the soapberry seeds are bigger and have a hard black seed inside.
and it isn't Melia beacause the Melia fruits are bigger and yellow, and they have 4 small seeds, the fruits of this tree have just one seed inside.

I have both of those trees that's why I'm sure it isn't one of them

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Re: Can you ID this little-red-fruit tree??

Post  Andre Beaurain on Fri Apr 05, 2013 2:41 pm

yves71277 wrote:

at the leaf nerves to see another obvious difference, compare those of your pics with the pics of the posters' and count em.

....Vascular bundles in the leaf are called leaf veins, if you can show me two leaves with the exact same vascular pattern......then you need to get out of Oudenaarden, quickly.

no need to shout at people and tell em they are sweeties that need glasses Wink

I was'nt shouting, HONEY.

we only need the poster to give us a bit more info, and preferrably more pics

If the leaf margin is entire...try the Alder Buckthorn, Frangula alnus, it does have the occational thorn.

Have a great weekend
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Post  Guest on Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:32 pm

Andre Beaurain wrote:
yves71277 wrote:

at the leaf nerves to see another obvious difference, compare those of your pics with the pics of the posters' and count em.

....Vascular bundles in the leaf are called leaf veins, if you can show me two leaves with the exact same vascular pattern......then you need to get out of Oudenaarden, quickly.

no need to shout at people and tell em they are sweeties that need glasses Wink

I was'nt shouting, HONEY.

we only need the poster to give us a bit more info, and preferrably more pics

If the leaf margin is entire...try the Alder Buckthorn, Frangula alnus, it does have the occational thorn.

Have a great weekend
Love and light

everybody knows their are small differences... it seems you have difficulty in accepting your guess was wrong, and rather shout at people who actually teach you something

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Re: Can you ID this little-red-fruit tree??

Post  Andre Beaurain on Fri Apr 05, 2013 4:02 pm

Their is spelled there in your sentence.




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Re: Can you ID this little-red-fruit tree??

Post  Guest on Fri Apr 05, 2013 4:04 pm

Andre Beaurain wrote:Their is spelled there in your sentence.




Dear God...Andre...

Jim, Fiona, take care of him will ya, because he's flooding my pm too.
bye, i'm off for a good weekend :-)

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Re: Can you ID this little-red-fruit tree??

Post  fiona on Fri Apr 05, 2013 4:52 pm

Andre sweetie, "wasn't" in your sentence is punctuated "wasn't" and not "was'nt". Laughing Twisted Evil Evil or Very Mad Cool Razz

Now, PLEASE (and that's an emphasised plea rather than shouting) could we maybe all stop greetin' (Scottish dialect version of that word "greeting") and get on with helping the poor original poster with the identification as I for one would like to know what it is.

Please? Pretty please?


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Re: Can you ID this little-red-fruit tree??

Post  Russell Coker on Fri Apr 05, 2013 4:54 pm

Alright, boys. Don't make Fiona send y'all out to pick your switch!


I don't know anything about the genus Frangula, but the species alnus ranges from the north-eastern half the USA into Cananda. These pictures were sent from Mexico. There is a west coast Frangula also, purshiana. Who knows how many others are lurking out there.

Until this mystery is solved "Skittles tree" works for me!

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Re: Can you ID this little-red-fruit tree??

Post  fiona on Fri Apr 05, 2013 5:02 pm

I liked the Skittles tree too. I'm going to PM David Brunner and see what his suggestion is. If The Cokerman don't know and Bro Beaurain is not 100% certain, then we need to pull in the big guns.

Question for Ahuehuete: is there any sort of botanical garden near you that you could take a sample of the tree to?

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