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Post  victorgg Fri Oct 26, 2012 5:21 am

Hi there!

I`m new on the forum and novice on bonsai world... I currently have a set of chinese tools but most of them are rusty or loosing sharpness.
I`m interested in buying some stainless steel tools (the options not sooo expensive) to avoid rust.. since I don`t really wanna have to oil and clean the tool after each use.

That being said... I found a "new" japanese brand, Tinyroots... it`s cheaper than other japanese tools and seems to have good quality.

Question... do you guys have Tinyroots tools? Can you please comment its quality? Specially stainless, but if you have the black one, please comment also.

Thanks a lot
Victor

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Post  JimLewis Fri Oct 26, 2012 1:07 pm

I`m interested in buying some stainless steel tools (the options not sooo expensive) to avoid rust.. since I don`t really wanna have to oil and clean the tool after each use.

I'm sorry, but a good workman ALWAYS takes care of his tools. If you can't care for your tools, how can you expect to care for your trees.

You will find that stainless loses its edge faster than good quality steel tools, and that after sharpening the edges may rust as fast -- if not faster -- than the "regular" tools. It takes so little effort to wipe the blades and handles of your tools with an oily rag.
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Post  victorgg Fri Oct 26, 2012 2:10 pm

Thanks for the heads up! I will consider steel tools.

Anyway, does anyone know tinyroots quality?

I found the creators of the brand... does it ring a bell?
"Tinyroots™ is a relatively new brand to the bonsai market developed specifically by bonsai experts for the purpose of offering the best in Japanese craftsmanship in artfully designed, high-quality, meticulously hand-crafted tools. Tinyroots™ tools utilize all the best in traditional Japanese design, quality control standards and legendary forging skills. The resources of both the Japanese Hidenobu Toyama family and Wakasaya family are employed to provide tools that are crafted for better precision, reliability and durability. This careful forging process resulting in blades that are extra-resistant to abrasion, nicks, gouges and most importantly, gaping, through years of use. With reasonable care, a Tinyroots™ tool can and will last a lifetime.

I will be on Miami/Orlando next months with my kids, didnt find local store with good costs...so Im considering to buy online, to deliver on the hotel.

Thx for the help
Victor

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Post  Guest Sat Oct 27, 2012 3:55 am

victorgg wrote:Thanks for the heads up! I will consider steel tools.

Anyway, does anyone know tinyroots quality?

I found the creators of the brand... does it ring a bell?
"Tinyroots™️ is a relatively new brand to the bonsai market developed specifically by bonsai experts for the purpose of offering the best in Japanese craftsmanship in artfully designed, high-quality, meticulously hand-crafted tools. Tinyroots™️ tools utilize all the best in traditional Japanese design, quality control standards and legendary forging skills. The resources of both the Japanese Hidenobu Toyama family and Wakasaya family are employed to provide tools that are crafted for better precision, reliability and durability. This careful forging process resulting in blades that are extra-resistant to abrasion, nicks, gouges and most importantly, gaping, through years of use. With reasonable care, a Tinyroots™️ tool can and will last a lifetime.

I will be on Miami/Orlando next months with my kids, didnt find local store with good costs...so Im considering to buy online, to deliver on the hotel.

Thx for the help
Victor



>>>this sounds more like of an advertisement for the above product than an inquiry...hehehe. Suspect

but like Jim said. It is always up to the worksman to take care of his tools.

BTW, I am also carrying/selling Bonsai tool products of Robert Steven but won't openly advertise it here to keep the integrity of the forum.

regards,
jun Smile

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Post  rps Sat Oct 27, 2012 5:55 am

I don't know how important it is to you that the tools be of Japanese construction, but I have an aching suspicion these are Chinese made tools with a Japanese pedigree. In other words, the product of a Japanese house with a factory in China.
This may not rule them out as quality gear; but, if the country of manufacture is important to you (as I project from your initial post) I suggest you e-mail the company via their website & respectfully ask where their tools are made.

How many tools are you thinking of buying? You mentioned you have a set of Chinese tools. I don't know how many pieces are in that set, but if you're anything like me you probably find you come back repeatedly to a couple of fail safe pieces while the rest go mainly unused. It might be worth considering just buying one or two (as your budget allows) very good (Japanese?) tools, based on the pieces you are already using the most. You can then add to that basic arsenal as resources allow.

I doubt the stainless steel vs carbon steel issue will ever be resolved conclusively. Like Fender vs Gibson, lager vs ale, or pine vs maple --- one can articulate measurable differences and similarities at length, but at the end of the day personal taste out trumps the numbers. For me, I like tools that fit my hand and feel "good" (effective) in use, regardless of their specs. In my limited experience, it's best to handle them prior to purchase --- although, I realize that isn't always an option.
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Post  Billy M. Rhodes Sat Oct 27, 2012 9:52 am

Japanese businesses are moving manufacturing facilities to other Asian countries for cheaper labor cost and less regulation like everyone else. I suspect Tinyroots tools are being made in China, or somewhere else by a Japanese owned factory. I know I have bonsai pots that say "Made in Japan" that were made in China. One head of a Japanese company that makes ceramic bathroom fixtures told me all of his production was now in Vietnam.

I don't think anyone addressed you question about buying tools in the Miami/Orlando areas of Florida. Although there are small dealer here, I would suggest mail order, I buy from bonsaimonk.com.

BTW, the quality of Chinese tools is increasing, but so is the price.

When will you be in Orlando and where in Orlando?


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Post  victorgg Sat Oct 27, 2012 2:44 pm

Thanks for the posts everyone, but apparently this is really new tools, so no one ever saw/"fell" it.

I received answer from the dealers that its Made in Japan... also, Billy, your suggested dealer bonsaimonk is also selling this brand...so I might try it.

I probably gonna buy 4-5 tools that I use the most.

I will be on Orlando from 5th - 10th nov, and Miami from 10th - 15th Nov... Orlando near Universal studios and Miami near the airport.
thx

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Post  rps Sat Oct 27, 2012 3:18 pm

Bonsaimonk is a reputable dealer. All my experiences doing trade with them have been VERY good.
If they are acting as vendor for this tool brand, then the product will be good value for the price.

Please follow up on this post with a short review once you've used them for a while.

Enjoy your trip & the new tools.
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Post  Jkd2572 Sun Oct 28, 2012 12:53 am

They come in a cool give box. I would probably throw it away after I took the took out. So kinda of a waste of extra cost.

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