My one viewing stone, the Dark Mesa

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My one viewing stone, the Dark Mesa

Post  drgonzo on Sun Aug 28, 2011 5:50 pm

This is my one and only Suiseki. I very VERY humbly submit it for your enjoyment. I've had this stone for a few years and found it in a gorge back when I lived in Ithaca NY. My camera is horrible as is my display tray (I'll pick up a real one soon) but you get the Idea. I had a friend in from out of town last weekend who saw this on my coffee table and said "Thats cool Jay it looks just like a cliff or a dark Mesa" because of its flat rippled top. He's not into Bonsai or viewing stones at all, but his eye saw the same thing mine did years ago when I first found this stone. And so now I call it the Dark Mesa. ooooooh spooky! Very Happy


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Re: My one viewing stone, the Dark Mesa

Post  Jesse McMahon on Sun Aug 28, 2011 9:45 pm

i like it. difficult to get an exact sense of scale in that photo, but the stone has great texture. is that some red flowing through it on the right hand side?

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Re: My one viewing stone, the Dark Mesa

Post  Guest on Sun Aug 28, 2011 10:20 pm

Hi Drgonzo

Thanks for sharing photo of your stone...
It looks interesting, a very flat suiban, and finer sand, in a darker collour, will make the stone look very nice.
I would also have picked the stone up Smile

Kind regards Yvonne

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Re: My one viewing stone, the Dark Mesa

Post  Billy M. Rhodes on Sun Aug 28, 2011 10:23 pm

Nice stone, I am not a stone person, Yvonne is.

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Re: My one viewing stone, the Dark Mesa

Post  drgonzo on Sun Aug 28, 2011 11:21 pm

Thanks Yvonne, and Billy

I dont do much with stones and I actually picked this up and kept it long before I started working with Bonsai and before I even knew what suiseki was, I just thought it looked like an arizona Mesa-except black.

I was looking at suiban today actually online, pricey, but if I keep my eyes open I might find something I could use, and next time I'm at the craft store I'll pick up some sand, beige or like a dark grey. What color sand do you think would work best with a black stone?
-Jay

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Re: My one viewing stone, the Dark Mesa

Post  drgonzo on Sun Aug 28, 2011 11:23 pm

Yes Jesse
the red, I believe is Iron oxide. I wish I had a better photo of that stone maybe tomorrow I'll bring it outside and take another shot.

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Re: My one viewing stone, the Dark Mesa

Post  Guest on Mon Aug 29, 2011 8:18 am

Hi Drgonzo

I look forward to see new photos Smile

If you are new to stones...and you dont really know....Then look for a rectangular, or maybe a oval very lov suiban, with straight sides, in a dark, not glossy collour, as the stone has iron, is it best not to buy the suiban in a collour to the yellow side, also look at the feet, no yellow....You can have it custommade by a potter.
The suiban must be about twice the lengd of the stone, and twice the widt of the stone....the sand should be clean, in only one collour ( not more tones ), try to find a pale, to the red side, not to grainy sand, that fits the grain in the stone...if you cant find that now....go for a lifelong search for interesting sands, like everybody else, who is devoted to the stones :)Petshops are nice to visit....

Kind regards Yvonne

Thanks Billy I love you But I still have a lot to learn

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Re: My one viewing stone, the Dark Mesa

Post  drgonzo on Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:42 pm

Thank you so much for your expertise Yvonne

I would never have thought to look for reddish sand but now that you mention it I think It would look VERY good on a burnt reddish sand, I think I know just the color your thinking off. I will visit the pet shop for my needs, thats a great Idea too. I will also follow your advice for selecting a Suiban, I thought originally to carve a Daiza for it but ultimately seeing as I'm imitating a landscape feature (a Mesa) then the stone should be displayed in a landscape like setting more akin to a Suiban with sand.

How do I go about treating the stone with oil to increase the luster and patina?
My great thanks!!
-Jay

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Re: My one viewing stone, the Dark Mesa

Post  Guest on Mon Aug 29, 2011 7:38 pm

Hi Drgonzo

Remember to keep the sand pale Smile

In a another topic did Truong send me this link http://www.suiseki-assn.gr.jp/en/factors_3.html
It clearly, and with simple words tell you how japanese stones is taken care of, BEFORE they become mature suiseki....What you do, is to keep your stone in the sun, and water it every day....if the "skin" allready now have patina, is it ready as suiseki.
Do never oil the stone, if you want the suiseki, to have a fresh collour inbetween, can you spray the stone with fresh water.
Some chinese stones are oiled, this is a chinese tradition, people in the western world, not is too happy about, and I dont really want to give any adwise, as I also am learning.....Until a few weeks ago, I just had some chinese stones, and a few mature japanese....I gave them all, a very little handcream from time to time. I dont do this anymore.

Kind regards Yvonne

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Re: My one viewing stone, the Dark Mesa

Post  drgonzo on Mon Aug 29, 2011 9:06 pm

Hi Yvonne
I just read that article on Yoseki and how the stone is "raised" and I like that very much, I too was reluctant to put oil on the stone, BUT I have read that it is fine practice to simply pick up the stone and handle it, rubbing some of your own skin oils, into and onto the stone every day for say 30-50 years and that is a wonderful way to bring out the patina.

I think I'll do a combination of both with the new stone I just found, 'Island in the stream', But the 'Dark Mesa' already has a nice look to it. I may only water it rather than handle it because it took me 15 minutes of fussing to even get it where I liked it in the tray, I don't want to disturb it now, except to give it its new sand and tray in time.

-Jay

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Re: My one viewing stone, the Dark Mesa

Post  Guest on Mon Aug 29, 2011 9:21 pm

Hi Drgonzo

I dont think you can do both thing, on the same stone...it is either bodyoil, or water. I am sure you will find your own way Smile
I look forward to see the new stone.

Kind regards Yvonne

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Re: My one viewing stone, the Dark Mesa

Post  drgonzo on Mon Aug 29, 2011 9:35 pm

Here is a much better picture with just a spray of water to bring out the shine.

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Re: My one viewing stone, the Dark Mesa

Post  Guest on Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:13 am

Hi Drgonzo

I is a very nice photo of your stone. But the stone is best seen, if you let it dry up first.

Kind regards Yvonne Smile

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Re: My one viewing stone, the Dark Mesa

Post  drgonzo on Tue Aug 30, 2011 3:47 pm

I agree yvonne THIS stone I think is better off dry, the water fall stone in the other thread looks great either way. I'm learning, slowly, but I'm learning!

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