Re: stone from Slovensko 2

sunip Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:05 pm

Hello Peter,
Pleasant simplicity.
Sunip Wink

Mike Jones Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:10 pm

peterbrod wrote:

Peter, I know absolutely nothing about viewing stones or suiseki; I do know though, that I adore the stand for this stone and think it all fits together beautifully. The grain on the stand is incredible. What wood is it please?

I'd very much like this in my home.

No offence or disrespect intended to any expert in this field, I'm just saying it how it is for me. geek

peterbrod Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:45 pm

stone from Slovensko 2 - Page 6 P4040111

wood is present, do not know the name, the Japanese rendering of the drawing inappropriate

**Chris Cochrane** Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:36 pm

Hi Mike, Peter & Yvonne.

While the wood in Peter's daiza has a distinct grain which is heightened by its light color, both the light color and distinctive grain should be avoided in suiseki daiza. Dark daiza with little grain bring out the stone as the object of primary visual engagement.

Look at Peter's last daiza as a better choice of subtle daiza seating.

sunip Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:42 am

Hello,
That was my first impression to,
nice wood but therefore a to strong presence.
Sunip Wink

Mike Jones Wed Apr 11, 2012 9:31 am

I now know twice as much as I did. Thanks Chris.

stonener Wed Apr 11, 2012 11:57 am

Well yes in suiseki daiza! strictly Japanese term.
but what about as World viewing stone appreciation?
Korean, Chinese and others find this perfectly acceptable.
Koreans repeat stone patterns on their stands, flowers, cycles & grooves.
Chinese add grapes, waves, nail heads and even animal legs.
Is there room for evolution or are we stuck with no other way,
if the stand complements the stone, as a frame does a painting,
there can be a union, it's not just a supporting element for viewing,
but a marriage, other side of the coin... Basketball

*forgive my ignorant opinion as I am a expert on nothing*...

Guest Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:06 pm

Hi Stonener

It could have been my words...I saw this pretty stand with lovely grain, as something indonesian-style....

Peter know all about that, he tried to explain, but google came out strange.

Kind regards Yvonne

**Chris Cochrane** Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:20 pm

It is not a neutral decision, Stonener. If you mount stones that function as subtle landscape-views in contour of the stone and its supporting seat but choose gorgeous rather than subtle wood graining for the seat, it doesn't matter what you call the stone. It is an aesthetically poor decision too mount this viewing stone, shangshi or suseok in a strongly-grained seat. Some professional "daiza" carvers attracted to gorgeous wood make the same mistake repeatedly, but you can understand a better choice.

Mike Jones Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:27 pm

I never for one moment realised that stone appreciation was as deeply involved. affraid

stonener Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:36 pm

Hey Mike! SORRY!
didn't me to scare you off or over load... cherry

we do cut down to the bone on this site.
Only way to learn, bold flat out questions,
and then... Basketball

Thanks to Chris, correct answers!, & reasons.
your right and I agree, it's good to have back-up.
Thank Again Chris for the knowledge... study

peterbrod Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:42 am

I gave a bad example dai pig

, Chris ok Idea

(English = 0)

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peterbrod Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:47 pm

stonener Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:22 am

Sensei, I see them!, no fancy grain wood!
solid simple soft finishes & neutral colors.
My Bonsai Master! John Naka once told me,
"Even monkeys fall out of trees!"
no one can be right all the time,
and we all can learn!
even from a mistake... study

Guest Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:37 am

Mike Jones wrote:
peterbrod wrote:

Peter, I know absolutely nothing about viewing stones or suiseki; I do know though, that I adore the stand for this stone and think it all fits together beautifully. The grain on the stand is incredible. What wood is it please?

I'd very much like this in my home.

No offence or disrespect intended to any expert in this field, I'm just saying it how it is for me.

If I had my home decorated in the collourfull indonesian style, would it be exacly this stone, I would want in my home.

The grain is lovely, and who say a carving shall be japanese style every time. If a piece of wood inspire you, then do what you want to do.

Everybody is free to carve what they want, and to ones personal taste...as far as I can see, is it what everybody do theese days on IBC....just dont show a indonesian style seat, and then ask if it is suiseki...just show it with the pride it deserves.

Carving is difficult, and personal taste is personal... Nobody has like it all, and so what.

Kind regards Yvonne