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Giving Bonsai a bad name

Post  Tony on Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:57 pm

I got sent this Link on Ebay by a 'client' considering "should I buy this" posts like this simply give bonsai a bad name... and as for Yamadori... good grief!

Whilst there are folk out there selling CRAP like this we will never improve the image of bonsai. Crying or Very sad

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Re: Giving Bonsai a bad name

Post  stephen clarke on Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:25 pm

Tony,no matter what the subject is, you always find this type of thing,i'm a chef and you would not believe the things people try to sell or get a way with i am new to bonsai but at this early stage i know what is crap (sorry rubbish)things will never change thats why i always ask questions,thanks for pointing this out,it teaches us who are new to this great hobby just what is what. Shocked

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Re: Giving Bonsai a bad name

Post  Tony on Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:34 pm

Would you buy This and think you have bought a bonsai?... two people have actually BID!

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Re: Giving Bonsai a bad name

Post  Mike Jones on Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:32 pm

Tony

Zero bids currently showing (19.30 UK time) oh, and totally agree. I have a beef with the sellers that advertise 'Bonsai' seed and use a picture (usually poached) to show what these special seeds can grow into; without intervention they just automatically become Bonsi ... sigh.

Did you note the 'secret location' reference?

Mike

Apologies, I missed the 'this' link. Thought you meant the Yamadori on the two bids.


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Re: Giving Bonsai a bad name

Post  Guest on Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:51 pm

Sorry Tomy. I promise not to bid any higher. Very Happy
I have said this before about ebay but you have to be foolish to buy bonsai this way.

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Giving Bonsai a Bad Name

Post  bonsaisr on Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:31 pm

It isn't just eBay. See my experience under Bald Ficus in Bonsai Pests. Somebody bought a rooted cutting mallsai at a florist and donated it to a blind auction. I hope I can save it. If not, the florist will hear from me. Perhaps it's just as well this tree was not bought by a beginner.
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Re: Giving Bonsai a bad name

Post  Jay Gaydosh on Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:31 pm

WHAT?

You mean those Magic Bonsai Beans I bought off the internet aren't real. Well that's just not right.

Just checked out the link, it says ZERO bids.

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Re: Giving Bonsai a bad name

Post  Jay Gaydosh on Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:34 pm

Wait. "bonsaiuk1". I do believe he's one of your chaps.

If he was a Yank it would be pitchforks, at sundown, pards. We're gonna have an old fashion Texas necktie party.

Heck it had 4 days, 11 hours left on the auction... think it will live that long?

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Re: Giving Bonsai a bad name

Post  landerloos on Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:03 pm

Tony my friend,
I agree with you 100%, one should know that never will be a bonsai, even in the worst books are examples better than these Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
I did take a look at the links and affraid affraid affraid
I want to sell carotbonsai you think it would work, bonsaipatato is one of those loonys to jocolor

kind regards

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Re: Giving Bonsai a bad name

Post  fiona on Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:39 pm

I've seen thicker toothpicks than that Prunus. In fact, it might make a better set of toothpicks than it ever will a bonsai.

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Re: Giving Bonsai a bad name

Post  Kev Bailey on Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:11 pm

We usually style pines throghout the year, optimum time is from spring through to summer as the branches are nice and flexible.

Haha, what a berk! Anyone with a bit of sense would see straight through inane stuff like this.

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Re: Giving Bonsai a bad name

Post  Sam Ogranaja on Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:07 am

Amazing that people have the cojones to post stuff like this. I genuinely feel sorry for beginners that get taken by these fools. I frequently see a van with a massive "Bonsai" sticker on the side of the road here in Raleigh selling toothpick Junipers. I've thought about stopping but the possibility of getting in an argument with some fool doesn't interest me.

Good luck to everyone on this Bonsai Journey. It's a beautiful art and I'm glad to be involved in it.
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Re: Giving Bonsai a bad name

Post  KimchiMonger on Wed Feb 02, 2011 6:28 am

There wouldn't be anything wrong with these listings if the first mentioned "starter scots pine" and second one "stick in a pot" for sale. Unfortunately, the use of word "bonsai" in the sale inflated their price and elevated the little things to a unrealistic level.

That second one is a nice stick in a pot though Shocked

You just have to know more about sticks in a pot ya know...
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Re: Giving Bonsai a bad name

Post  JimLewis on Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:18 pm

Anyone with a bit of sense would see straight through inane stuff like this.

Yeah, but the sellers aren't targeting folks with even a "bit" of sense. These days, those seem to be in the minority, anyway.

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Re: Giving Bonsai a bad name

Post  Paul B (Scotland) on Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:35 pm


The scary thing is the seller has a feedback total of 1496 @100%.

Although recent auctions are marked as private, if you scroll down the feedback record you can see many trees being sold previously- some of them going for well over £100. affraid

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Re: Giving Bonsai a bad name

Post  Todd Ellis on Sat Feb 05, 2011 4:27 pm

It is always "Buyer beware" with online purchases. I think if a site/vendor (eBay included) has good photos of the trees, then the buyer can be assured of what they are getting. You're right about the newbies - they are the ones who don't know any better and take everything they read or see at face value. Certainly there is nothing wrong with buying seedlings or cuttings in pots. Honest reliable vendors will call this kind of material "pre-bonsai" or something to that effect.
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Post  Guest on Sat Feb 05, 2011 4:35 pm

'You're right about the newbies - they are the ones who don't know any better and take everything they read or see at face value.'

not wrong Todd, my brother in-law bought a yew sapling in a little bonsai style pot and reassured me it was ok because it had a tag stuck in the soil that read 'genuine bonsai'.

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Re: Giving Bonsai a bad name

Post  Jay Gaydosh on Sun Feb 06, 2011 8:05 pm

Sale ended... ZERO bids! Maybe there is hope at last!

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