Tamarindus - looking for large old examples

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Tamarindus - looking for large old examples

Post  Khaimraj Seepersad on Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:02 pm

Here are two images I took at Guayaguayare probably 89 or so, and this tree is no longer with us. It was at that time over 100 years old and supposedly planted by an Indian lady, who came to live and work on this coconut estate.

Note, the lack of surface roots, and this tree is probably about 100 feet / 33 m ? from the seashore, all the character is built into the trunk. Growing into a clay soil, with a thin layer of blown inland sea sand.
The branches were thick and had a great deal of movement.

As I get time, I will see if we have any other old Tamarind trees around the island.

The Tamarind is supposed to be native to Africa and it travelled to India and then world wide. Any images from Africa / India ?
Looking for close ups on the trunk, branches and texture of the bark on the tree.

You cannot see the texture on this tree, but it flaked off. The cork bark texture often seen is an in-between stage, at least on my island.[ T and T.]
Hoping for some images.
Khaimraj






Whole tree and sea in the background




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Post  jrodriguez on Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:12 pm

Nebari

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Post  jrodriguez on Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:13 pm

Close up

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Post  jrodriguez on Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:14 pm

Tamarind bonsai material ( featured in Lo Min Hsuan's Book Bonsai Journey/Bali ASPAC Demo)

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Post  jrodriguez on Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:26 pm

Khaimraj,


Tamarinds or Tamar Hindi (Indian Date) are very common in Puerto Rico. This particular tree is well over 200 years old and in classified as a 'Champion Tree'.

Like you said, the rugged/cork bark appearance is usual for young to intermediate trees. As they mature, the bark becomes silvery, with a turtle back pattern.

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Post  Khaimraj Seepersad on Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:56 pm

Yes, Jose,

thanks, that is what I was looking for. Do you have any idea of how that tree got to Puerto Rico?

Also do you have an image of the whole tree ?
Anyone got a 300 year old ?
Oldest in the world ?
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Post  Khaimraj Seepersad on Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:59 pm

500 hundred years old - http://visitruesho.blogspot.com/2010/10/500-year-old-tamarind-tree-at-surola.html

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Post  jrodriguez on Wed Jan 26, 2011 8:00 pm

Khaimraj,

Tamarind trees arrived to the Caribean islands during the 1770-1790's. They were brought over by the Spaniards. The tree i feature as an example, was planted near an abandoned sugar cane plantation and might be even older than 300 years. I am planning to go back to it and take some pictures. It is really a great tree, old and beautiful.

The bonsai material I included in my pictorial belongs to me.

Kinds regards,

Jose Luis

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Post  Jerry Meislik on Thu Jan 27, 2011 3:58 am

Lovely old trees. Thanks for posting them.
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Post  jrodriguez on Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:38 pm

Apparently 900 years old. From India



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Post  Jerry Meislik on Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:57 pm

Jose Luis,
That is one special tree and the rotted trunk is wonderful.
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Post  tuyhoabob on Fri Jan 28, 2011 12:58 am

So maybe what I'm seeing in many cases here are also this tree? I have noticed a similar growth pattern in these which resemble the pic posted by Jose Luis, the bark on most I see is pretty rough as well.

Thanks for posting the pics, those are some beautiful old trees.

Bob

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Post  Rob Kempinski on Fri Jan 28, 2011 2:33 am

jrodriguez wrote:Apparently 900 years old. From India


Note the apex shape. Most bonsai artists would have the upper right branched pruned off.


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Re: Tamarindus - looking for large old examples

Post  Jerry Meislik on Fri Jan 28, 2011 2:37 am

Rob,
Good observation.
As a bonsai artist would you shorten it up?
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