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Post  grazbass Sun Sep 17, 2017 2:50 pm

Hello all: New to this forum, new to Bonsai growing . I have what I believe to be a Japanese Black Pine that I've been trying to get to thrive for about 1 year. Some notes about my premie: Lives indoors, adequate sunlight, no fertilizer as of yet. I felt I germinated/planted it in a too large pot to begin with (pictured) and was fearful to try to move it..It is my hope that my pictures will help you to help me. Thanks so much.

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Post  grazbass Sun Sep 17, 2017 2:58 pm

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Post  Marty Weiser Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:30 pm

Most trees from temperate and colder regions such as pines need some downtime during the year to get ready for the next growth flush. Since I doubt that you chill the inside to near freezing for a month or two during the winter that is my guess as to why it is not doing well. I have heard of folks in tropical areas storing their temperate trees in a freezer or refrigerator, but it is a lot of work and they rarely thrive. The same argument applies to those of us in temperate climates that insist on growing tropicals - we can bring them inside for the winter, but they will survive and not thrive.

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Post  AlainK Sun Sep 17, 2017 6:41 pm

If you keep it indoors, it will die.

Try Chinese elm, they will survive a bit longer if you can keep it in an unheated room.
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Post  BrendanR Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:52 am

It needs simply to go outside and stay there. Make sure it does not dry out. But you will wait 30 years before that becomes a "bonsai".

I recommend buying something from a nursery that you can actively work on to create a bonsai. More fun, and much more rewarding.

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Post  Kev Bailey Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:16 pm

Alain and Brendan are spot on with their advice. I enjoy growing stuff from seed, but the long slow process is enough to deter most newcomers, unless they have enough other plants to keep them interested.
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Post  grazbass Sun Oct 01, 2017 4:15 pm

Thank you, everyone, for your informative and gracious replies. It is now October 2017 in the Philadelphia PA area and I am going to start placing my pine outside. I shall explore other Bonsai options as suggested, but the equity I have in my pine urges me to at least try to get it to thrive albeit not as a Bonsai

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