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Post  Marija Hajdic on Sat Oct 31, 2009 8:06 am

1. Phillyrea latofolia collected in nature 3/2008


2. after cutback


3. making deadwood on branch summer 2008


4. first styling 12/2008


5. 10/2009 after styling

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Post  JimLewis on Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:36 am

This is a new species to me. Looks like it makes an ideal bonsai, like its relative Ligustrum. Excellent start. Please keep us up to date on this one.

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Post  Eric Newton on Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:46 am

Nice!!!

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Post  Guest on Sat Oct 31, 2009 2:05 pm

What a beauty!! That bark is amazing. Can you show us some more?

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Post  Marija Hajdic on Sat Oct 31, 2009 2:35 pm

JimLewis wrote:This is a new species to me. Looks like it makes an ideal bonsai, like its relative Ligustrum. Excellent start. Please keep us up to date on this one.

Yes it is ideal for bonsai! But it grows only in Mediterranean climate as a bush in karst or macchia , so that is why you did not heard for it before.
It belongs to Oleaceae family, same like ligustrum, ash, olive tree and else.

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Post  Walter Pall on Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:34 pm

Here you can see dozens of these under 'very advanced broadleaved workshop':
http://walter-pall-travelogues.blogspot.com/

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Post  Seth Ellwood on Sat Oct 31, 2009 5:59 pm

Insanely awesome piece of yamadori please keep us posted on it's development.

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Post  Andrija Zokic on Sun Aug 01, 2010 11:01 am

Phillyrea latifolia today.






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Post  Mário Eusébio on Sun Aug 01, 2010 11:46 am

Hi!

Excelent tree! Maybe I would not go for a bunjin, or maybe change a bit the angle, I think now it is a bit too stable!

Marija, here in Portugal we have also some good latifolia and lots of the angustifolia, but this last isn't so good mainly because the bark does not became so interesting! I found them more dificult to densify then the olives due to their long internodes, if we leave the shoots to grow freely it is easier to have internodes with more then 5 cms! How do You do to have short internodes?

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Post  Walter Pall on Sun Aug 01, 2010 12:06 pm

Very good.

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Post  Marija Hajdic on Sun Aug 01, 2010 12:38 pm

Thanks Walter!


Mário Eusébio wrote:
Marija, here in Portugal we have also some good latifolia and lots of the angustifolia, but this last isn't so good mainly because the bark does not became so interesting! I found them more dificult to densify then the olives due to their long internodes, if we leave the shoots to grow freely it is easier to have internodes with more then 5 cms! How do You do to have short internodes?
We have augustifolia also here, on some small areas. Old species are with bark like latifolia.
About internodes, where you keep your trees in semi shade? First few years after collecting we don't care about internode, and usually first 1-2 season they are longer, and after they shorten. After collecting is important for branches to get thicker, so usually first season we let them grow freely, then next year cut back ... It is much important for tree to recover, than worry about internodes. Some of our newly collected olives have 7 cm internodes, but in this phase of development it is not important.
We keep latifolia in full sun all year, fertilise frequently, and water every day in Summer. When tree is healthy it is not problem to densify crown, on contrary 4 sprouts usually grows from same spot on branch, so you have to cut excess.

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Post  Andrija Zokic on Sun Aug 01, 2010 12:44 pm

Mário Eusébio wrote:
Excelent tree! Maybe I would not go for a bunjin

This is not tipical bunjin, but something like this: http://walter-pall.de/elmsfield_elm_nr__1.jpg.dir/index.html


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Post  Milan Karpíšek on Sun Aug 01, 2010 1:23 pm

this is very good for me, I like tree on virtual

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Post  Bob Pressler on Sun Aug 01, 2010 2:55 pm

Really nice tree. Love the bark and movement in the trunk.

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Post  Storm on Sun Aug 01, 2010 6:51 pm

A very nice tree! Lovely bark, and a really good find! Only thing I have to comment, is that in my humble oppinion, I think you cut the tree back a bit much.
Looking forward to see hows its gonna be.

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Post  Mário Eusébio on Mon Aug 02, 2010 1:28 am

Hi!

Thanks for all good explanations Marija! I have one with a very large base, maybe about 45 cms but only with 30 cms high so I should go for a diferent design. In the last Bonsai Actual magazine there is a full article by Tony Payeras from Menorca that it's very interesting about this species.

Andrija, yes I agree with You this not a typical Bunjin and I like very much the option You made, I only wish to see a trial on alternative angle to see and explore others options, maybe it could be fine with another one!

Best regards,

Mário Eusébio


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Post  fabrice B on Mon Aug 02, 2010 1:57 am

Dear Andrija, Marija,

as everybody said, it's a very nice tree with lot of quality, strong with nice bark. My critique will be for the top because actually it seems that you have 2 tops, the one from the right is very strong and it look like another top.
I'm sure you see what i mean.

I've seen lot of your trees on Walter Traverlblog, you advanced greatly in few years and they are astonishing, what a stretan put :-)

Regard.

Fabrice

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Post  Walter Pall on Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:39 am

Two tops are most normal for trees. What's wrong with that?

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Post  Marija Hajdic on Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:32 am

Mário Eusébio wrote:Hi!

Thanks for all good explanations Marija! I have one with a very large base, maybe about 45 cms but only with 30 cms high so I should go for a diferent design. In the last Bonsai Autócno magazine there is a full article by Tony Payeras from Menorca that it's very interesting about this species.
Yes I know about that article. That is only first part published. In the second part will be also photo of one of our Phillirea. I have read article translated with Google translator scratch but I from what I have understand that is very good article about this species. It seems that only Antoni Payeras and we have larger amount of this trees ... so far, I hope that it will change in future.

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Post  Mário Eusébio on Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:21 am

Hi Marija!

Thanks, I'll be waiting for the rest of the article!

Here are some photos of the mine latifolia in the first Year after collection. (Sorry to use Your post Embarassed )







I follow Your blog and it is outstanding the quality of the material that You have been collecting, congratulations!

Regards,

Mário Eusébio

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Post  Marija Hajdic on Mon Aug 02, 2010 1:43 pm

Mário Eusébio wrote:Hi Marija!
Here are some photos of the mine latifolia in the first Year after collection. (Sorry to use Your post Embarassed )
Tree looks healthy. Don't worry about internodes in this phase!

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Post  fabrice B on Mon Aug 02, 2010 2:38 pm

Hi Walter, don't missinterpret what I said. the tree is very nice like that. Just the top from the right is very strong and could take the advantage from the center one. This is not a bad idea, it's the intern fight in the tree for light. I will post a photo of my taught tonight :-)

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Post  Marija Hajdic on Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:53 pm

fabrice B wrote:Dear Andrija, Marija,
My critique will be for the top because actually it seems that you have 2 tops, the one from the right is very strong and it look like another top.

No 2, but actually 3 branches, and none of it is top, and all together is crown! Wink


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Post  fabrice B on Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:40 pm

ok, so here is my pic, it's logical for a bunjing




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Post  Andrija Zokic on Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:35 am

phillyrea latifolia today in new pot.


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