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Leucaena leucocephala (aka Mimosa, Haole koa) progress

Post  fbizuneh on Sat Mar 08, 2014 11:06 pm

Here are some pictures of a tree that I harvested from the wild today ( 3/8 ) on the Big Island of Hawaii.
I had a few questions about directions to take this tree.

- What species of tree is this? (leaves / flowers shown in second picture)
- What do you estimate the age of this tree?
- How much sunlight does this tree need?
- What specific branche would you reccomend be removed?
- Any additional tips or comments would also be greatly appreciated.

Mahalo,
Fasil









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Re: Leucaena leucocephala (aka Mimosa, Haole koa) progress

Post  David Brunner on Sun Mar 09, 2014 4:04 pm

Hello Fasil – your tree looks like Indigofera suffruticosa, Upright Indigo, to me, but we have several members from Hawaii that will likely have a more certain identification.   If I am correct in the identification, this is a plant which was introduced to Hawaii from tropical America and has become a weed in some areas.

I have not grown this species, so I can give little horticultural advice, but I suspect it will be vigorous and forgiving.

Keep us posted on your progress,
David B.

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Recent Pictures

Post  fbizuneh on Sun May 25, 2014 6:05 am

After a few months of unchecked vigorous growth. I just brought some of the larger branches down to create a more proportionate canopy. The tree is now starting to take quite a nice shape.

Any suggestions?

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Fasil




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Re: Leucaena leucocephala (aka Mimosa, Haole koa) progress

Post  beer city snake on Mon May 26, 2014 4:06 am

i would just let it run for a bit, considering it is newly potted, it could use some more recoup time still...
and then too you'll be able to determine better what direction to take...

and being harvested about 20 yards from the ocean, it might need some salty spritz now and then.

btw - do you surf ?

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Re: Leucaena leucocephala (aka Mimosa, Haole koa) progress

Post  Vance Wood on Mon May 26, 2014 12:33 pm

It looks like Mimosa. Has it flowered yet? If so describe the flowers.

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Re: Leucaena leucocephala (aka Mimosa, Haole koa) progress

Post  JimLewis on Mon May 26, 2014 3:09 pm

Looks like Haole koa, Leucaena leucocephala, which IS a Mimosa. Its an imported weed to Hawaii.

There is an endemic koa tree, also, which is in the Acacia family, but this isn't it.

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Re: Leucaena leucocephala (aka Mimosa, Haole koa) progress

Post  Bruce Winter on Tue May 27, 2014 7:24 am

JimLewis wrote:Looks like Haole koa, Leucaena leucocephala, which IS a Mimosa.  Its an imported weed to Hawaii.  

There is an endemic koa tree, also, which is in the Acacia family, but this isn't it.  

Very well could be. Wait for the white puff-ball seed pods to be sure.

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Re: Leucaena leucocephala (aka Mimosa, Haole koa) progress

Post  fbizuneh on Tue Jun 03, 2014 8:51 am

Should i bring the height down? Virtuals would be appreciated.

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Fasil

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Re: Leucaena leucocephala (aka Mimosa, Haole koa) progress

Post  Andre Beaurain on Tue Jun 03, 2014 11:08 am

There seem to be a bit of confusion with this species..

Fasil already gave us a picture of the flower....  and its neither a mimosa or powder puff or an Acacia.  

Look at the flower....  definately Indigofera suffruticosa, as David Brunner said.   ThumbsUp

Indigofera is very very fast and respond very quickly...I only know Indigorea fruticosa which grows here by riverbanks and roadside.... It doesnt live very long at all, and it would be very interesting to see how long it can lasts as a bonsai....


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Re: Leucaena leucocephala (aka Mimosa, Haole koa) progress

Post  Bruce Winter on Tue Jun 03, 2014 7:18 pm

I missed the blurrey flower. Recent cataract surgery doesn't help. Wink 

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Mimosa for the win

Post  fbizuneh on Thu Jun 05, 2014 8:36 pm

Turns out Jim Lewis was correct is suppositing "Haole koa, Leucaena leucocephala, which IS a Mimosa"

I responded to a craigslist posting for a bonsai sale yesterday and came across a nice assortment of Mimosas harvested from all over the island. Some potted, others as pre bonsai stock.

a nice composition

Another view:




A small jin attempt by the previous owner:




I didn't buy this massive dwarf schleffera but may be heading back for it if I can convince the wife. (pot 17.5' wide)


Also here is a virt of my original tree with some height reduced. thoughts?


Mahalo for looking,
Fasil

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Re: Leucaena leucocephala (aka Mimosa, Haole koa) progress

Post  Bruce Winter on Fri Jun 06, 2014 5:29 am

Good you made it over to Shermans. I see a seed pod forming on the top branch. Soon it will be white and puffy.

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Re: Leucaena leucocephala (aka Mimosa, Haole koa) progress

Post  Andre Beaurain on Fri Jun 06, 2014 7:19 am

Fasil

Are you trying to make us look like idiots.

Why did you remove the Indigofera flower form your photos?

Did you post the wrong picture.

The least you could have done, is to be honest, and say... Sorry guys posted the wrong flower picture, made a huge mistake......  

But no, you just leave it, edit your post and make me and David out as stupido!

 No  No  No

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Re: Leucaena leucocephala (aka Mimosa, Haole koa) progress

Post  fbizuneh on Sat Jul 26, 2014 8:51 pm

Here we are 4 months later,

Starting to pick out which branches I'd like to develop. Any suggestions moving forward?

Virtuals appreciated.

Mahalo,
Fasil




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Re: Leucaena leucocephala (aka Mimosa, Haole koa) progress

Post  fbizuneh on Fri Dec 12, 2014 7:05 pm

Yes Kevin, I saw that post. Not sure why you insist on posting it again here. Please move on.

Now that I got that out of the way. Here is the latest shot after repotting to a shallower round pot and exposing some nebari.
Coming along nicely



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Re: Leucaena leucocephala (aka Mimosa, Haole koa) progress

Post  beer city snake on Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:02 pm

fbizuneh wrote:Yes Kevin, I saw that post. Not sure why you insist on posting it again here.

i was just wondering the same thing that andre was... (still am, but no big deal)

but i do have a topical question:

being a haole myself, i wonder why it is called a haole koa ???
is it the white, mainlander version of the an actual koa tree ? Wink

believe it or not, i'm being serious when i ask why it is called that...

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Re: Leucaena leucocephala (aka Mimosa, Haole koa) progress

Post  Bruce Winter on Mon Dec 15, 2014 9:17 pm

Hi Kevin. Try this:http://www.ctahr.hawaii.edu/forestry/trees/CommonTreesHI/CFT_Leucaena_leucocephala.pdf

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Re: Leucaena leucocephala (aka Mimosa, Haole koa) progress

Post  beer city snake on Mon Dec 15, 2014 9:35 pm

thanks bruce !
i guess i wasnt too far off Wink

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Re: Leucaena leucocephala (aka Mimosa, Haole koa) progress

Post  Khaimraj Seepersad on Mon Dec 15, 2014 9:46 pm

It is an interesting tree. I used it to rebuild the soil around my place on the eastern sea coast. Now I have them by the hundreds and the cut down and come again plants have some quality about them.

Fbizuneh,

if you are still with us, do the leaves drop monthly, as they do on our side?
Later.
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Re: Leucaena leucocephala (aka Mimosa, Haole koa) progress

Post  fbizuneh on Tue Dec 16, 2014 2:58 pm

Haole is often misinterpreted as meaning caucasian. It actually just means foriegner. The Mimosa is sometimes called haole koa because it is an imported species (a.k.a foreign species) that bares some similar traits to the endemic Hawaiian Koa tree.

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Re: Leucaena leucocephala (aka Mimosa, Haole koa) progress

Post  Bruce Winter on Mon Dec 22, 2014 7:24 am

I'm at the upper limits of where haole koa can grow but here's one that's been limping along for 10 years or so. Soon the green seed pod will burst into a white fuzzy ball.


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Re: Leucaena leucocephala (aka Mimosa, Haole koa) progress

Post  Khaimraj Seepersad on Mon Dec 22, 2014 10:35 am

Bruce,

I have been working on densifying the foliage with branchlets.
There is a timing to go through.
Anyhow this is what it looked like a year or so ago on IBC.

*The ability to heal is amazing, and the leaves are rated the same as manure, so I am testing what happens when they are fed back with their leaves.
Thank you for showing.
Later.
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Re: Leucaena leucocephala (aka Mimosa, Haole koa) progress

Post  Bruce Winter on Tue Dec 23, 2014 7:44 am

Khaimraj ,

Yours is obviously so much happier down in the heat where it belongs. Mine will lose a branchlet or branch at the drop of a hat. It's a care-giver infirm patient relationship as much as anything else.

Cheers

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Re: Leucaena leucocephala (aka Mimosa, Haole koa) progress

Post  Bruce Winter on Sat Dec 27, 2014 5:41 am

Bruce Winter wrote:I'm at the upper limits of where haole koa can grow but here's one that's been limping along for 10 years or so. Soon the green seed pod will burst into a white fuzzy ball.

And here it is.


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Dropping Leaves

Post  fbizuneh on Mon Dec 29, 2014 8:45 pm

Khaimraj,

To answer your question, all leaves did drop from the stress of repotting along with heavy December wind & rain here on The Big Island. But as an earlier poster stated, these plants are quite resiliant. As you can see below it is already budding all over the place -


(taken 12/29/14) (for scale, pot = 8" diameter, height = 17.5")

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