BONSAI WALES 2012

There were a few IBC members at this show myself included unfortunately I wished I had
taken my dinning room table with me because thats were I left my camera
so! did anyone else take any photos??.{ btw Tony T sorry to hear about the theft }
hope the person responsible when next visiting the toilet they pass a hedgehog [thats gotta hurt!! ]

Alex e

MMMMMMMMMM! OBVIOUSLY NOT! !!

I think people are scared to put anything on here these days, Alex, as it seems just about every darn thing starts a fight.

But it would be nice to see some pics as I was unable to get to the show.

fiona wrote:...as it seems just about every darn thing starts a fight.

Just some differing opinions Fiona...that leads to lively & spirited discussions.

fiona wrote:But it would be nice to see some pics as I was unable to get to the show.

I agree, we all want to see the pics...PLEASE!!!

Poink88 wrote:

fiona wrote:...as it seems just about every darn thing starts a fight.

Just some differing opinions Fiona...that leads to lively & spirited discussions.

I can't believe anyone fell for that. Or maybe it's a case of Quod Erat Demonstrandum

Paul from Swindon did post a link to his photobucket album but I was surprised that there were so few photos as I, like Fiona, missed the event. I think Will has some demo stuff on his Blog,

Regards,
Simon

BTW
I did stop posting here for exactly what Fiona mentioned!

Did I miss a fight, love a good fight. I also missed the show, and I missed the meaning of

Or maybe it's a case of Quod Erat Demonstrandum

Fiona?

i must admit there are about 120 really good pics online - but they are on facebook. I'll see if i can transfer some here..


Now then...............when did you lot become a bunch of spineless individuals who cant stand up for your own beliefs, An open forum is such great fun - you get to debate and question, to cross swords with devils advocates, and to stand up for your own beliefs- every decent thread adds a little experience and learning to the mixing pot. I'll buy a box of snickers and dish them out to any in need of a 'man up' boost.


When i've put poor work up and being told on here it was basically rubbish i went back to it, looked to see if i agreed and then worked harder and better. These days I dont rush half done work into a post as that deserves strong negative comments. -



pray to the tree ............ welsh set up

yhe! Go Marcus Go. I fully agree. What happened to, grab your arms and run into battle. Everyone is so scared in saying something wrong, that even I am reluctant to respond these days. We turned into a bunch of sissys. And in that, we learn little, and play nicely. I guess that is what happens when men turn civilized.

Love and light
Andre

Andre Beaurain wrote: We turned into a bunch of sissys.
Andre

I am leaking milk while we speak!
cheers,
Hans van Meer.

Hans. Let it leak onto your trees - as in "Japanese White Pine Styling" - apparently??!! Cheers.

Andre Beaurain wrote:Did I miss a fight, love a good fight. I also missed the show, and I missed the meaning of

Or maybe it's a case of Quod Erat Demonstrandum

Fiona?

Quod Erat Demonstrandum is a phrase used after something has been proved to be the case and translates colloquially in English as something like "hence proved".

The ironic point is, that by refuting what I said about everything turning into fights, the people were actually proving my point.
The double irony is that my act of stirring it has prompted accusations of being spineless.

So, for the record, I have no problem with differing opinions or lively and spirited discussions and, as Marcus rightly points out there are some truly great debates on this forum. I think we all accept that if you put something on here (or any forum) you open up a debate which maybe will not yield the "nice tree" pat on the back response you wanted.

But I am getting very weary of the way that very quickly some threads turn into just plain rudeness, antagonism or displays of plain ignorance. Those are the threads that are putting people off posting. The thin veneer that makes us "civilised" is perhaps necessary to do our best to ensure that the good debates are the ones that shine through and keep the ignorant ones out.

Otherwise it will get to the point on here that the only way to deal with the rudeness is to be even more rude in one's response and that is something I just wouldn't want.

Thanks Fiona. Someone has got to educate this (me) lot!

I am leaking milk while we speak!
cheers,
Hans van Meer.

HA ha ha ha
That was very funny

Andre Beaurain wrote:Thanks Fiona. Someone has got to educate this (me) lot!

I am leaking milk while we speak!
cheers,
Hans van Meer.

HA ha ha ha
That was very funny

And that is precisely what we lack right now - folk lightening up and being FUNNY. That's what I liked most about the forum as it used to be.

Let's start a world's worst joke thread over in The Lounge. It worked the last time we tried it.

I did have my camera with me for the weekend BUT the goddam battery was flat and I did not have the charger... The best photos I have seen were from Mark Cooper.

As for lack of posting and critical debate, sometimes snide and ill informed remarks simply wear me down, one comment recently seriously made me consider terminating my membership... I stay because there are some great folk here and they outweigh the fools.

I miss Harleyriders wonderful retorts

tony wrote: I stay because there are some great folk here and they outweigh the fools.

No need to drag me into it Tony! You know I am a modest man! And I lost a lot of weight, so the outweighing gets harder and harder!
Cheers,
Hans van Meer.

fiona wrote:And that is precisely what we lack right now - folk lightening up and being FUNNY. That's what I liked most about the forum as it used to be.

Let's start a world's worst joke thread over in The Lounge. It worked the last time we tried it.

Good idea. As Nike would say "Just Do It!"

Hans van Meer. wrote:

tony wrote: I stay because there are some great folk here and they outweigh the fools.

No need to drag me into it Tony! You know I am a modest man! And I lost a lot of weight, so the outweighing gets harder and harder!
Cheers,
Hans van Meer.

Johannes I cannot weight to see you at Burrs this year buddy its been weigh to long

marcus watts wrote:Now then...............when did you lot become a bunch of spineless individuals who cant stand up for your own beliefs, An open forum is such great fun - you get to debate and question, to cross swords with devils advocates, and to stand up for your own beliefs- every decent thread adds a little experience and learning to the mixing pot. I'll buy a box of snickers and dish them out to any in need of a 'man up' boost.

When i've put poor work up and being told on here it was basically rubbish i went back to it, looked to see if i agreed and then worked harder and better. These days I dont rush half done work into a post as that deserves strong negative comments. -

Marcus,

Half done trees offer lots of learning opportunities as well...it outweighs "strong negative comments" any day in my book.

CHEESE & RICE all I asked was did anyone take photos as lots seem to have found there way
onto another Forum incidently only about 3 from the Welsh contingent( mmm oh yeh! Bonsai Wales) ,BTW Marcus are you talking about the IBC!!!!this IBC?, my experience of growing a pair of which I have large ones invaraibley ended in snide remarks or threats of being banned from this forum, topics being removed or worse still no one with the good manners to reply least not for everyone to see .I DIGRESS!!
Kevin Wilson,s demo was outstanding ,there was someone else doing a demo on a big! Scots Pine who,s name escapes me for a minute :and a heat of the new talent competition also took place.

Alex e

I can post a link to my blog for the trees in the exhibition and the demo's if you like? Too many to post I'm afraid

Have to agree with Alex.
comm'on Chris and you Jerry. I do not believe you do not have any pics !!!.

alex e wrote:CHEESE & RICE all I asked was did anyone take photos

Alex e

OOOOOHW, it was you that started all this again!!! Asking for photos...the impudence! Shame on you!!!
Cheers,
Hans van Meer.

Hi Peter,
I only had my phone camera and for once only took pics of my own tree.
I understand the organisers are looking at producing a book if they get enough takers.



Alex, why didn't you take your camera on the second day and get some pics?