Back From The Grave (Sweet Gum)

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Back From The Grave (Sweet Gum)

Post  Jake16 on Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:20 am

I dug this up way to late in the season but my plan was to see if I could keep a deciduous alive. I thought it was dead for most of the growing season because it lost it's leaves a week after I dug it up. But it threw out new growth a week ago Smile . I am going to keep it as a shohin, probably informal broom. Smile Any comments welcome, and virtual.



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Post  Jake16 on Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:23 am

sorry for the sideways pics, if its a problem just comment and ill turn them

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Post  BonsaiJim on Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:22 am

My golden rule is to never compost anything until after July 4th... glad to know they are resilient- I have a bunch in my growing field.

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Post  Ryan on Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:38 am

The good growth down low is nice, but I fear that most of the upper section of the tree may be dead. It looks that way, at least.

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Post  Jake16 on Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:49 am

Ryan wrote:The good growth down low is nice, but I fear that most of the upper section of the tree may be dead. It looks that way, at least.

Ryan,

hahah ohhhhh yeah its dead, but thats fine with me im just glad the tree lived. Really there was more that died I just cut it off awhile ago. Yeah im glad there is new growth down low, It should thicken the trunk nicely.

BonsaiJim,

Thats not a bad rule Smile, I dont know why I kept watering a "dead" tree but it seems to be paying off haha

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Post  Zach Smith on Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:38 am

Jake16 wrote:I dug this up way to late in the season but my plan was to see if I could keep a deciduous alive. I thought it was dead for most of the growing season because it lost it's leaves a week after I dug it up. But it threw out new growth a week ago Smile . I am going to keep it as a shohin, probably informal broom. Smile Any comments welcome, and virtual.

Actually, sweetgum may well prefer being collected in June rather than during winter. My success rate has been much higher when I waited. One tip: seal the chop to prevent moisture loss, and you should get budding higher up next time. Oh, and remove the leaves. Leaving them on doesn't help, especially if your temps are hot. Transpiration losses are hard on a newly collected tree.

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Post  Jake16 on Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:38 pm

Zach Smith wrote:
Jake16 wrote:I dug this up way to late in the season but my plan was to see if I could keep a deciduous alive. I thought it was dead for most of the growing season because it lost it's leaves a week after I dug it up. But it threw out new growth a week ago Smile . I am going to keep it as a shohin, probably informal broom. Smile Any comments welcome, and virtual.

Actually, sweetgum may well prefer being collected in June rather than during winter. My success rate has been much higher when I waited. One tip: seal the chop to prevent moisture loss, and you should get budding higher up next time. Oh, and remove the leaves. Leaving them on doesn't help, especially if your temps are hot. Transpiration losses are hard on a newly collected tree.

Zach

Yeah I dont have any cut paste, wish I did. And whats wrong with keeping the leaves?

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Post  Zach Smith on Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:52 pm

The leaves lose moisture that cannot be replaced until the tree grows new feeder roots. Thus they pull moisture up through the sapwood and dry it out, leading to death of the tree. If you insist on keeping the leaves, then bag the tree for a couple of weeks and usually that's enough. You'll learn to judge how long, based on the tree's response.

But I just take the leaves off. Simplifies life.

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Post  Jake16 on Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:54 pm

Last question Smile But how will the tree keep it's self alive with out leaves?

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Post  Zach Smith on Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:28 am

Jake16 wrote:Last question Smile But how will the tree keep it's self alive with out leaves?
Similar to how it does in winter without leaves - stored energy. The tree wants to live, so when you dig it and cut both roots and top and leaves off, it tries to re-establish itself. As long as you don't stress the tree beyond its ability to recover, i.e., by desiccation, usually it'll live.

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