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Yuhua Stone (Rain Flower Stone) - Page 2 Empty picture stones of volcanic origin

Post  wen Mon Feb 06, 2012 5:35 am

these textures are very possibly of volcanic origin



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Post  wen Mon Feb 06, 2012 5:39 am

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Post  wen Mon Feb 06, 2012 5:42 am

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Post  wen Mon Feb 06, 2012 5:58 am

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Post  wen Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:00 am

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Post  sunip Mon Feb 06, 2012 7:29 am

Hello Wen,
Thanks for posting this collection.
Nice to be able now to come back to this tread and enjoy again and again, all those beautiful little worlds.
Regards, Sunip Wink

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Post  sunip Mon Feb 06, 2012 12:01 pm

Landscape in these flowerstones?
Pines?
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Wild see with rocks?
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Post  Chris Cochrane Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:11 pm

Hi Billy, Wen, Sunip... Nice photos.

Known today as "Rain Flower Stones," similar stones were illustrated in the Lin Youlin's Suyuan Shipu ("Plain Garden Stone Catalog") (1613) as figured river stones gathered at the Qinglian Boathouse. Have the most favored specimens always suggested scenes/pictures? Pebbles with abstract designs (e.g., layering/stripes and repeated concentric circles/"eyes") as well as scenic rocks are illustrated in Suyuan Shipu.

I imagine these are associated with stones identified in the much earlier Yulin Shipu ("Stone Catalogue of Cloudy Forests) (c. 1133) by Du Wan. Edward Schafer translates the desciptive text associated with stone #54:
An elegantly veined agate... It is patterned with the forms of human beings, animals and clouds. ... The magistrate Chao-hsin obtained a large specimen from a peasant during the period 1111-1117 CE. It was ground to show a coiled yellow dragon on a white background; it was taken for the Imperial treasury. (Schafer text on the Stone Catalogue..., pp. 74-75)

Unlike Chao-hsin's stone, today's Rain Flower Stones might occur without processing. Perhaps, Wen can clarify.

Before the IBC website was hacked (~ August 2008), the president of the stone group in the Liuhe District, Nanjing (Jiangsu Province) area shared photos of many, here. He spoke of their sourcing from a particular memorial hill where availability of the best is increasingly limited. To learn that a source is available in Hubei province is encouraging... :-)
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Post  wen Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:11 pm

sunip wrote:Landscape in these flowerstones?
Pines?
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Wild see with rocks?
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Thank you for your appreciation, Sunip Smile
Do you mean "wild sea with rocks" ? Yes, the picture look like very violent water and rocks.
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Post  wen Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:38 pm

Chris Cochrane wrote:Hi Billy, Wen, Sunip... Nice photos.

Known today as "Rain Flower Stones," similar stones were illustrated in the Lin Youlin's Suyuan Shipu ("Plain Garden Stone Catalog") (1613) as figured river stones gathered at the Qinglian Boathouse. Have the most favored specimens always suggested scenes/pictures? Pebbles with abstract designs (e.g., layering/stripes and repeated concentric circles/"eyes") as well as scenic rocks are illustrated in Suyuan Shipu.

I imagine these are associated with stones identified in the much earlier Yulin Shipu ("Stone Catalogue of Cloudy Forests) (c. 1133) by Du Wan. Edward Schafer translates the desciptive text associated with stone #54:
An elegantly veined agate... It is patterned with the forms of human beings, animals and clouds. ... The magistrate Chao-hsin obtained a large specimen from a peasant during the period 1111-1117 CE. It was ground to show a coiled yellow dragon on a white background; it was taken for the Imperial treasury. (Schafer text on the Stone Catalogue..., pp. 74-75)

Unlike Chao-hsin's stone, today's Rain Flower Stones might occur without processing. Perhaps, Wen can clarify.

Before the IBC website was hacked (~ August 2008), the president of the stone group in the Liuhe District, Nanjing (Jiangsu Province) area shared photos of many, here. He spoke of their sourcing from a particular memorial hill where availability of the best is increasingly limited. To learn that a source is available in Hubei province is encouraging... :-)

Hi, Chris
Sorry for the delay in response.
I have been busy in the past several days and did not come here for the post. And I am very slow in writing English...often have to look at the dictioinary.
The agates discribed in Yulin Shipu ("Stone Catalogue of Cloudy Forests) refered to those from Yidu County in Hubei Province and and Xuyi County in Jiangsu Province. The locality are different from that of nowadays Yuhua Stone, which are mainly Liuhe County and Yizheng County of Jiangsu Province.
According to Yunlin Shipu, Agate from Yidu County had sand and mud (tightly attached)at the surface and must be polished off before the pictures and textures could be seen.
Today's Rain Flower Stones are all from the sandpit and turn up very clean.
Wen


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Post  wen Sat Feb 11, 2012 2:55 pm

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Post  Chris Cochrane Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:05 pm

Thanks for the history, Wen, as well as for posting lovely specimen stones. Your sharing is deeply appreciated.
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Post  wen Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:58 pm

Chris Cochrane wrote:Thanks for the history, Wen, as well as for posting lovely specimen stones. Your sharing is deeply appreciated.

I am very happy you and other stone freinds here like my Yuhua Stone pictures. Very Happy

In recent days I studied Yunlin Shipu ("Stone Catalogue of Cloudy Forests) and find there are several agate localities described: Jiangning,Liuhe, Yizheng and Xuyi of Jiangsu Province,Anqiu of Shandong Province,Sixian of Anhui Province,Songzi of Hubei Province,Ruzhou of Henan Province,Yidu of Hubei Province, and Huanglongfu (I still dont know where Huanglongfu is). Among them, Liuhe and Yizheng are nowadays Yuhua Stone locality.
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Post  wen Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:01 pm

Most of the Yuhua Stone are from sandpit. Sands are the major product of the sandpit and there is a small amount of decorative pebbles produced. Workers select(pick out) pebbles of different color for different use. When picking up the pebbles they will occasionally found pretty ones and sell them as RainFlower Stones. So Rain Flower Stone is byproduct of the sandpit.
There are several pictures of one of the sandpit in Yizheng County (photo by Wen, May 2007).

picture 1, s sandpit
picture 2, a truck loading sand and several workers picking up pebbles
picture 3, workers picking up pebbles
picture 4, pebbles for decorative use

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