NATIONAL BONSAI & SUISEKI EXHIBITION 2011 IN JAKARTA

Thanks Peter for sharing these lovely exhibition pics!
Budi, is the book still available?

Rgds, Shaukat

i really enjoy seeing different species in exhibition.

it is very good to see the style of the display developing in its own direction too - i think shows in other countries are still trying to display the trees the same way as japan, rather than develop their own cultural styles.

very nice to see,

marcus

Beautiful trees. A lot of great work.
I would like to see one live.
Really beautiful. Thanks for sharing.
Gretings Pavel

Shaukat Islam wrote:Thanks Peter for sharing these lovely exhibition pics!
Budi, is the book still available?

Rgds, Shaukat

Hi Syaukat,

Sure the book is available. Do you want one?

Budi

Indonesian trees are awesome!!!

jrodriguez wrote:Indonesian trees are awesome!!!

Same here! I am always impressed to see those trees which are a bit different then what we are used to see, but you can't deny the quality. What a ramification on those deciduous trees...

jrodriguez wrote:Indonesian trees are awesome!!!

Jose Luis,

Thanks for appreciating Indonesian trees. Bonsai nowadays is growing rapidly all over the world. European bonsai is growing rapidly, Taiwan is trying hard to be number one, China is very rich with variations of style and very old trees that some times give a feeling that other bonsai of the outside world is taste less, South East Asian countries like Malaysia, Philippines, Thailand, Vietnam and Indonesia are growing various kinds of tropical species with a very fine way of training that formerly not even known in the bonsai world. Combining with Japan, Korea, United States and the Latin world, it is really hard to find the number one. In different way each of all are number one. The art of bonsai nowadays is reaching the golden age in term of quality. Congratulations to us all.

Your friend,
Budi

Budi Sulistyo wrote: Bonsai nowadays is growing rapidly all over the world. European bonsai is growing rapidly, Taiwan is trying hard to be number one, China is very rich with variations of style and very old trees that some times give a feeling that other bonsai of the outside world is taste less, South East Asian countries like Malaysia, Philippines, Thailand, Vietnam and Indonesia are growing various kinds of tropical species with a very fine way of training that formerly not even known in the bonsai world. Combining with Japan, Korea, United States and the Latin world, it is really hard to find the number one. In different way each of all are number one. The art of bonsai nowadays is reaching the golden age in term of quality. Congratulations to us all.

Your friend,
Budi

That could not be said better - a world bonsai spokesman has been found !

cheers Marcus

marcus watts wrote:

Budi Sulistyo wrote: Bonsai nowadays is growing rapidly all over the world. European bonsai is growing rapidly, Taiwan is trying hard to be number one, China is very rich with variations of style and very old trees that some times give a feeling that other bonsai of the outside world is taste less, South East Asian countries like Malaysia, Philippines, Thailand, Vietnam and Indonesia are growing various kinds of tropical species with a very fine way of training that formerly not even known in the bonsai world. Combining with Japan, Korea, United States and the Latin world, it is really hard to find the number one. In different way each of all are number one. The art of bonsai nowadays is reaching the golden age in term of quality. Congratulations to us all.

Your friend,
Budi

That could not be said better - a world bonsai spokesman has been found !

cheers Marcus

Marcus,

Budi is a personal friend and one of my mentors. I guess that, because he has more credibility than I do given his bonsai status, he managed to convince you that there are different flavors in bonsai. I feel that you are starting to appreciate that there is more than one way to skin a cat. In fact, you were the one trying to start a battle between Taiwan and Japan. I was the one telling you that you have to learn to appreciate bonsai from all countries.

Cordially,

Jose Luis

jrodriguez wrote:

marcus watts wrote:

Budi Sulistyo wrote: Bonsai nowadays is growing rapidly all over the world. European bonsai is growing rapidly, Taiwan is trying hard to be number one, China is very rich with variations of style and very old trees that some times give a feeling that other bonsai of the outside world is taste less, South East Asian countries like Malaysia, Philippines, Thailand, Vietnam and Indonesia are growing various kinds of tropical species with a very fine way of training that formerly not even known in the bonsai world. Combining with Japan, Korea, United States and the Latin world, it is really hard to find the number one. In different way each of all are number one. The art of bonsai nowadays is reaching the golden age in term of quality. Congratulations to us all.

Your friend,
Budi

That could not be said better - a world bonsai spokesman has been found !

cheers Marcus

Marcus,

Budi is a personal friend and one of my mentors. I guess that, because he has more credibility than I do given his bonsai status, he managed to convince you that there are different flavors in bonsai. I feel that you are starting to appreciate that there is more than one way to skin a cat. In fact, you were the one trying to start a battle between Taiwan and Japan. I was the one telling you that you have to learn to appreciate bonsai from all countries.

Cordially,

Jose Luis

Jose Luis and Marcus,

Kokufu undoubtedly is one of the best bonsai exhibition in the world. In term of display, preparation of the bonsai, pots, accessories, accent plants, they are really excellent.
But you have to see exhibitions in other countries like Taiwan, South East Asia and of course it is not a bad idea to see the BCI in Yang Chou, China. You will see so many amazing bonsai. In term of the displaying they are maybe not comparable to Kokufu. But as an artist and bonsai lover, it is really worth to seethe bonsai quality, variations and the richness in the sense of beauty.

Regards,
Budi

jrodriguez wrote:
. In fact, you were the one trying to start a battle between Taiwan and Japan.

Cordially,

Jose Luis

haha, jose, slightly exaggerated comment I think. Of course i appreciate all brilliant bonsai and fully understand the work required to make and keep them. Because of that I also can also see a tree that could be further improved, (as can many long term bonsai hobbyists). There is a huge difference on the forum that many blindly say "Ooh they are all so wonderfull", when a few people will actually look properly at the trees and see possible improvements and talk about them. A comment of good critique is worth 100 'nice tree' posts as it may make a few people look again at the trees properly.

Who really cares who is 'best'.?? there will never be a world competition, you could never chose the judges or get the trees under one roof I believe the Japanese trees are still the pinacle of the bonsai art, and when a top show takes place there is such a high standard across virtually all entrants. - (An amazing tree still needs its perfect companions - the amazing pot, stand and acsent )
The pictures we see from other countries have some great trees but the great ones are inspired and styled like japanese trees anyway, so by immitation alone you may become equal - but you will never become best.

For these reasons Jose I dont see there is a 'battle' between Japan and Taiwan, (or between japan and any other country). I would remove Japan from this 'world dominance competition' and set them aside at the very top. If you then want to judge the other countries to see who is managing to put on the best bonsai display shows then go for it - compare them against each other if you wish.

A great picture thread would be each countries top prize winners from their top shows all grouped together so the world 2011 winners etc etc , side by side the small details would show through. Done over several years we could see who is improving and this is far more interesting than who is best! It would also show if a country had a hard year due to weather - be it floods, earthquake or even drought, and bounced back to former glory when settled times return.

I really enjoy the passion that goes into some of these discussions, there is a lot to be learnt,

Thankyou,

Marcus