A little help pls
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A little help pls
I'm in a bit of a quandary as to the "front" of this tree. It is a Satsuki of unknown ilk. I showed it in bloom not long ago.
The "typical" front is with the tree pointing to the left. That puts the lower right hand branches giving the tree some depth at the back.
However, I like the trunk and rootage better on the "back" of the tree -- even tho a good deal of the trunk is hidden behind foliage.
I can no longer wire azalea because some meds make my hands shake too much, so for the last year or so these have been clipped and grown and they're starting to show it. Kennedy, Callahan and Adams all seem to differ a bit on the shaping of azalea, but given that I can't wire without breaking more branches than I have to wire, can some of you please add to the confusion with your suggestions?
Thanks.
The "front":
Different lighting and a better angle:
The "back":
The "typical" front is with the tree pointing to the left. That puts the lower right hand branches giving the tree some depth at the back.
However, I like the trunk and rootage better on the "back" of the tree -- even tho a good deal of the trunk is hidden behind foliage.
I can no longer wire azalea because some meds make my hands shake too much, so for the last year or so these have been clipped and grown and they're starting to show it. Kennedy, Callahan and Adams all seem to differ a bit on the shaping of azalea, but given that I can't wire without breaking more branches than I have to wire, can some of you please add to the confusion with your suggestions?
Thanks.
The "front":
Different lighting and a better angle:
The "back":
Last edited by JimLewis on Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:59 pm; edited 1 time in total
JimLewis- Member
Re: A little help pls
i think the visual flow is much better with the current front. That could probably be fixed by moving things around a bit if you went with the back, but it sounds like you would have to get someone to do that work for you.
It's a beautiful tree, and I don't think the back base is sufficiently better than the front base to make it worth the effort of completely re-doing the top of the tree.
- bob
It's a beautiful tree, and I don't think the back base is sufficiently better than the front base to make it worth the effort of completely re-doing the top of the tree.
- bob
cbobgo- Member
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I'd encourage the back/right branch a bit. It's not a windswept.
Don't worry about wiring Azalea, they are snappy for everyone! It takes extreme care and early triple wires to achieve optimal positioning.
Don't worry about wiring Azalea, they are snappy for everyone! It takes extreme care and early triple wires to achieve optimal positioning.
Kev Bailey- Admin
A little help please
JIM ,, Only my opion but I like the back for a front also.. the top branches go toward the current back..switching would change thatand to me would make the tree better.. it,s a nice tree anyway you go.. take care john
moyogijohn- Member
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Hi Jim I like the first picture as front.
have you not consider before (or even now) a semi cascade for this tree?
regards,
jun
have you not consider before (or even now) a semi cascade for this tree?
regards,
jun
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I agree on both counts.jun wrote:Hi Jim I like the first picture as front.
have you not consider before (or even now) a semi cascade for this tree?
Poink88- Member
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jun wrote:Hi Jim I like the first picture as front.
have you not consider before (or even now) a semi cascade for this tree?
regards,
jun :)
I'm afraid the roots and base will not allow that in this stage of its/my life. I've had this tree for a number of years now, and have tried several possibiities, but this one is the one that seems to work best for me -- notwithstanding the (ugh) "nebari."
Thanks for the comments and suggestions, everyone.
JimLewis- Member
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Hey Jim
I see your delimia. I too like the new front, but it does need some refinement.
One of my most respected teachers once told me.
" In any successful bonsai design, the Back often becomes the Front! Don't fight it just change it back in a few years." Vaughn Banting
Mitch
I see your delimia. I too like the new front, but it does need some refinement.
One of my most respected teachers once told me.
" In any successful bonsai design, the Back often becomes the Front! Don't fight it just change it back in a few years." Vaughn Banting
Mitch
Mitch Thomas- Member
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Now the first image is obviously the most show worthy front, the roots don't look bad at all in the photo (in person might be different).
I like the back better as far as the nebari goes. The main thing you need to make the switch is the first branch on the current front to fill out and give depth as a first back branch. The rest is relatively minor. Make the switch, it may end up being a 360 bonsai.
I like the back better as far as the nebari goes. The main thing you need to make the switch is the first branch on the current front to fill out and give depth as a first back branch. The rest is relatively minor. Make the switch, it may end up being a 360 bonsai.
Leo Schordje- Member
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Jim,
Without seeing it in person, I like the front you're using now. Not that the other is bad...
I think this is a great little azalea, and I like the fact that it's not your typical pine tree shape bonsai. It reminds me of an old windswept oak growing on the bay, or the old trees that were along the Mississippi coast on Highway 90 before Katrina. The soft flow of the trunk and branches is really nice.
I think this is 'Kaho', but with just the dark pink flowers. It's a dense, bushy plant and you're going to have to keep after it so it doesn't turn into a blob.
Hey, play your cards right and you end up with a great little tree that's pretty from both sides, like Leo said.
Russell Coker- Member
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Thanks, Russell. I think I'll tend toward keeping the current front as THE front.
JimLewis- Member
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Believe me, I've considered that. So far, though, it hasn't won my approval. Thanks.
JimLewis- Member
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For me, all that does is eliminate a good bit of the tree's charm.
Russell Coker- Member
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i agree with Russell. Currently the tree has character, and a distinctive look. Turn it into a regular informal upright and it will look just like everyone else's azalea.
- bob
- bob
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