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Trident maple problem...need help

Post  Joel on Sun Jul 12, 2009 4:23 pm

I purchased a trident maple a couple months ago. It's 15 yrs old and well established.... healthy... I hope. This brings me to my problem. I left for vacation for a week. Left my girlfriends daughter to water it daily while I was gone. I got back and every leaf was dried out and a light brown to slightly green color. She swore she watered it everyday but I'm thinkin not enough. I defoliated the entire tree just behind each leaf where it meets the stem of the leaf. I've been watering it for the last two weeks and keeping it shaded. Was this the right thing to do? I need help. So if anyone has any suggestions I really appreciate it. I'm very new at bonsai. I've read as much as I can. But in some cases its hard to remember everything. PLEASE HELP!!!!

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Re: Trident maple problem...need help

Post  kenduncan on Sun Jul 12, 2009 5:35 pm

Joel,
Once the leaves are trashed it is best to remove them by pruning and leave a stub at the base of each leaf.
With not as many leaves on the tree it will not take up as much water so be careful not to over water,
Good luck with your Trident.
Ken

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Post  Joel on Sun Jul 12, 2009 6:44 pm

So cutting the entire leaf off and leaving just the stem from the leaf was the wrong thing to do? I was always confused about that. I hope this won't cause too many problems. Seeing I already defoliated the entire tree.

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Post  AlainK on Sun Jul 12, 2009 8:43 pm

Joel wrote:So cutting the entire leaf off and leaving just the stem from the leaf was the wrong thing to do?

No, you did the right thing. It's been around 25° Celsius here, I did it on a young trident, and a week later new leaves were starting to come out. But it was heavily fertilized in early spring and the growth was very strong. I let it rest (no fertilizer) for a month before leaf-cutting.

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Post  Joel on Sun Jul 12, 2009 11:41 pm

Thank you Ken and Alain.

What kind of fertilizer do you recomend for my trident? I havent fertilized it yet. I am new and trying to read up on some things to make sure I don't make any mistakes. I know to fertilize only from spring to fall. and then none in winter and less watering in winter too.

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Post  kenduncan on Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:23 am

Joel, I would not fertilize until the leaves come back out.Then You can use any type of fertilizer just follow the instructions from the manufacturer. Remember to water only when the soil is dry.
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Post  AlainK on Mon Jul 13, 2009 12:45 pm

kenduncan wrote:Joel, I would not fertilize until the leaves come back out.Then You can use any type of fertilizer just follow the instructions from the manufacturer. Remember to water only when the soil is dry.
Ken

Yep, that is sound advice.

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Trident Maple Problem

Post  bonsaisr on Mon Jul 13, 2009 1:05 pm

Where do you keep the tree? It should be outdoors. Right now it should be in the shade, then gradually to part sun as it recovers. Very important not to overwater. If you don't see signs of recovery, scratch the bark to find out if it is still alive.
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Post  Joel on Mon Jul 13, 2009 3:13 pm

I do keep it outdoors. Its been in the shade for about two weeks now. I'm not overwatering. I will gradually be movng it to less and less shade. Thank you Iris. I appreciate all the help from everyone that has responded to my questions. Looks like the roots that are coming out the bottom of the pot holes are still alive. Hopefully that is a good sign. And some of the new shoots on the tree are getting small leaves too.

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Post  NeilDellinger on Tue Jul 14, 2009 1:04 am

That is a good sign. To confirm, you did do the right thing. Using a light feed now that you are seeing some leaf growth and new shoots would be fine. Give it a little more sun. I'd let it grow where it wants the rest of the season though..just to gain some strength.

It's been in the 100's in tulsa, I just defoliated some smaller tridents and left in full sun. Doing great...5 days after defoliating they are producing new leaves.

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Post  bonsaistud on Wed Jul 15, 2009 7:43 pm

G'day Joel...

"...water only when the soil is dry...".

Dry, but not deied out...

Pat

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Re: Trident maple problem...need help

Post  Reiner Goebel on Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:57 am

After defoliation, the tree should be put into full sun in a humid environment. The heat on the root ball stimulates the growth of roots, and its effect on the branches is that they react by activating adventitious buds.

However, I don't think that keeping it in shade for a for a week or two or three is going to kill the tree. It's just not what I do.

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