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Post  Guest on Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:02 am

Hi IBC!

Another food for the brain!


This tree needs total restyling...
Like most of my trees, the solution on this one can be very drastic or just minor trim.


Any ideas?





















Some of the live branches are intertwined with the dead ones...




Some are twisted 180 degrees...





Virts and sketches are very much welcome.


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jun Smile


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Post  Andre Beaurain on Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:27 am

Jun, your tree is beautifull!! Wow.

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Post  vev on Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:26 am

yes it's very beautiful, a idea...

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Post  Guest on Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:46 pm

Thank you Vev for the drawing! I really do like your drawing style, Is it water color or pen and Marker?


With the design of the tree, I was thinking more on the side of a literati...What do think?


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Post  Guest on Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:47 pm

Andre Beaurain wrote:Jun, your tree is beautifull!! Wow.

Thank you Andre!

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Post  vev on Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:17 pm

thank's, it water color and pen black
your tree is very beautiful and a literati is a good idear

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Post  Poink88 on Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:37 pm

vev wrote:thank's, it water color and pen black
WOW! ...all this time I thought it is a super neat virtual software. Amazing. cheers

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Post  Guest on Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:55 pm

Poink88 wrote:
vev wrote:thank's, it water color and pen black
WOW! ...all this time I thought it is a super neat virtual software. Amazing. cheers


That is why I said It is very nice and much appreciated. All of Vev's works are just simply an art itself. Water color is one of the most difficult medium in painting...and cannot be replaced by any computer generated virt (IMHO). There is always that sense of personal touch to the piece.

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Re: Twisted Phempis redesign

Post  Guest on Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:08 am

Hi IBC.

Today I took a look again of the tree and see some new angles, but his one I find interesting without the opposing movement of the deadwood. but the nice deadwood on the other side must be removed. Sad








I'll perform the operation later today. I hope it will be closer to what I imagined outcome below.



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Post  Sam Ogranaja on Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:34 pm

Good job Jun. Much improved. I see a hint of Robert Steven in your work. I think it's a huge compliment to pay such respects to a well known master. Well done.

Have a great week!
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Post  Guest on Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:42 pm

Sam Ogranaja wrote:Good job Jun. Much improved. I see a hint of Robert Steven in your work. I think it's a huge compliment to pay such respects to a well known master. Well done.

Have a great week!
Sam

Really? Suspect I was applying as student at his class...but the classroom is full already. Razz Wink

It is expensive in Japan and I heard some bad news going on in some bonsai classes there...So will wait for Robert's class to open up again hehehe.

Thanks Sam!

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Post  moyogijohn on Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:46 pm

JUN,,, I see you made your redesign. My opion only it looks great...i was going to ask to remove the long dead woodbut was afraid too ! now if you carve the ,,bump,, down some it would be better.. good job take care john

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Post  Guest on Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:56 pm

moyogijohn wrote:JUN,,, I see you made your redesign. My opion only it looks great...i was going to ask to remove the long dead woodbut was afraid too ! now if you carve the ,,bump,, down some it would be better.. good job take care john


Thank you John. I will slowly deal with that bump but should be very careful. I am using that extra bump as a visual counter balance to the heavy left side, If I totally removed it the whole composition would look falling down the left side.


The carving if done should also look very natural because of this...






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Post  Guest on Wed Feb 22, 2012 4:03 pm

Sam Ogranaja wrote:Good job Jun. Much improved. I see a hint of Robert Steven in your work. I think it's a huge compliment to pay such respects to a well known master. Well done.

Have a great week!
Sam


One more thing Sam!

...He uses giraffe as accent I use bird. Smile Razz




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Post  Poink88 on Wed Feb 22, 2012 4:07 pm

Jun,

I believe the sacrifice improved the tree. Good job!

Re: carving, at least the tree (and the chopped deadwood) have a lot of examples you can try to replicate. Wink

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Post  Sam Ogranaja on Wed Feb 22, 2012 4:10 pm

jun wrote:
One more thing Sam!

...He uses giraffe as accent I use bird. Smile Razz




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jun Smile

Ahahahahhahahahah That is awesome. I totally needed that laugh today, Jun. Thank you so much. Maybe one day, you can hold classes and teach others, huh? I know I'd like to learn more from you, and I am learning with all these trees you've been posting on here.

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Post  Guest on Wed Feb 22, 2012 4:19 pm

Thank you Sam. I am glad you like the bird!

...Holding classes in the future, No way man! We can do the exchange of views on bonsai over bottle of beers, that is less boring, but thanks for the confidence.

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Dario,

Thanks!

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Post  Poink88 on Wed Feb 22, 2012 4:26 pm

jun wrote:...Holding classes in the future, No way man! We can do the exchange of views on bonsai over bottle of beers, that is less boring, ...
Jun,

If you are up to it, I will try to visit and see you when I come home for vacation. Be warned, I will be tipsy with just 2 beers...I usually end up warming my beer and raid the "pulutan" Wink LOL. Sorry folks, don't know the English equivalent of it...Filipinos, love to eat while drinking and it is called "pulutan".

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Re: Twisted Phempis redesign

Post  dick benbow on Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:01 pm

I hesitated to say anything because i got to this post late and what has been done, is done.

Maybe i read too much into a design, but I loved the tree as it was initially.Didn't care for the pot much tho....would have preferred it to be in a long rectangle and the tree situated toward the right hand end of the pot allowing the living branches to grow into the available space while the dead branch hung over the end of it's pot the same/ or equal distance as the living ( sorry not computer literate nor have artistic tools to draw the sketch)

As I looked at the initial design I saw two of three branches going the same way. they had life. The other going the "wrong way" was in conflict with the others, but had not fared as well as the living branches. I see a story in that. I see no story or conflict in the new design, the tension is gone, the flow is in unison and escorts my eye off the subject and on to the next exhibit. If anything the little bird causes me to stop for a moment before quickly moving on.

I morn for the loss of missing branch. For in all of life, rather it be for humans or our cared-for trees, there are dead spots along the way that need to remain to remind us of renewed purpose.

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Re: Twisted Phempis redesign

Post  Pavel Slovák on Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:52 pm


Hi Jun
Very nice work and beautiful tree.
Jun, the tree will soon be master classes. Tree full of elegance and dynamism. Great expression.
Congratulations. ThumbsUp
Gretings Pavel

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Post  Guest on Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:09 am

Dick,

Thank you for the decent analysis on the "before and after" look of the tree. Much appreciated! Opinion coming from different angles like yours are what we need sometimes. I am posting my trees here to promote more analytical thinking on the design solutions.I am sure now I hit at least one target . cheers


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jun Smile




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Post  Guest on Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:12 am

Pavel Slovák wrote:
Hi Jun
Very nice work and beautiful tree.
Jun, the tree will soon be master classes. Tree full of elegance and dynamism. Great expression.
Congratulations. ThumbsUp
Gretings Pavel


Pavel,
Thank you very much!
"Master class"? I'll be happy to own at least one! hehehe! cheers


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jun Smile

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Post  Jesse on Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:38 pm

I like this tree very much. Like Dick, I too loved the original version of this tree though I can't articulate exactly why nearly as well as Dick did so I'll leave it at that. I caught my breath a bit when I saw that branch removed but after the initial shock passed I saw that I liked the new version very, very much. I love your work Jun and I'm impressed by the willingness to take action so readily. I love it. I probably tend to towards the other end of the spectrum. I would describe my bonsai style as 'Paralysis by analysis', hahaha. Well done Jun.

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Post  Robert Steven on Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:00 pm

jun wrote:
Sam Ogranaja wrote:Good job Jun. Much improved. I see a hint of Robert Steven in your work. I think it's a huge compliment to pay such respects to a well known master. Well done.

Have a great week!
Sam

Really? Suspect I was applying as student at his class...but the classroom is full already. Razz Wink

It is expensive in Japan and I heard some bad news going on in some bonsai classes there...So will wait for Robert's class to open up again hehehe.

Thanks Sam!

regards,
jun Smile

I am not cheap either Jun..and I can also be very rude to my students as well...hehe.... Evil or Very Mad

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