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Post  hungbonsai on Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:58 am

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Post  Ryan B on Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:47 am

I'm gonna have to go with Dr Gonzo on this one. You guys are arguing two different opinions. While Chinese trees may have been styled in this manner for decades, or even centuries, it was first NAMED and Recignized as a "style"(this is a peculiarly Western way of anal classification) through The bonsai work and writings of a few important South Africans....and Vaughn Banting, an American who I think may have designated "flattop" style a bit earlier, for Bald Cypresses.

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Post  Max on Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:38 am

Ryan,

if you invent something without giving it a name then you didn't invent it????? Neutral
By the way I am quite sure this style has had a name in China as well.
Even if it's just called like it's first appearing town or so... We simply don't know it.

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Post  rock on Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:48 am




Sleep

So you enjoyed Wigerts then, eh?

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Post  Max on Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:37 am

Thanks for your constructive post, Rock.
Anyway I would also feel happy to end this.

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Post  Andre Beaurain on Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:41 pm

I think Max cant except the fact that South Africa came up with something else other than Mandela
and the Creepy Crawly What a Face

So lets talk about the Baobab style ....
also originated in China then Max?

Joking..youre so easy to tease!!!

And its friday....Have a wonderfull weekend everybody!!
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Post  my nellie on Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:55 pm

Cool
Have a wonderfull weekend you too, Andre Beaurain !!
...someone is (perhaps) about to say very angry stuff....



PS : to whom it may concerns....


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Post  fiona on Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:20 pm

Andre: Have you read THIS? If not, it's everything you need to know about posting pics. It's very easy as all you do is press buttons and you seem to be good at that. Very Happy Wink Let me know if you are still having difficulty.

Now can everyone b****er off and have a great weekend instead of getting their smalls in a stutter over names. Otherwise I will authorise a who can pee the highest up the wall contest to resolve it. Razz Twisted Evil


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Post  Andre Beaurain on Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:46 pm

Razz Laughing Razz

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Post  Max on Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:10 pm

Have a nice weekend, too!
By the way I didn't know Creepy Crawly is from South Africa! But I believe it! Wink

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Post  fiona on Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:20 pm

It's one of their four major bonsai styles, Max.


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Post  marcus watts on Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:38 pm

Max Engels wrote:if you invent something without giving it a name then you didn't invent it

What a complete load of rubbish Max - the act of inventing something is constructive and unique. At most you only need to describe it or show it - you are the inventor. To name an invention is a secondary act to create wide spread understanding, or branding, of the invention. Whether you choose to add a name or not does not effect the fact you are the inventor - how do you explain modern branding where an inventor shows his product and a marketing person names it......??

Luckily all the proper bonsai styles were created, 'named' and described long before ridiculous egos got involved - if left to the stylists of today we would get the stylists surnames as the style, branded, trade marked and copyright protected! - I could think of nothing worse. And personally I believe no-one invented a bonsai tree style - they evolved over many years or were copied from nature, so that goes for South Africa too.

haha - all this thread from a visit to some blokes garden !

Peace and love - styled in the Lennon laid back style I love you

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Post  Poink88 on Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:42 pm

marcus watts wrote:haha - all this thread from a visit to some blokes garden !

Peace and love - styled in the Lennon laid back style I love you
IMAGINE that! Wink

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Post  fiona on Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:45 pm

marcus watts wrote: if left to the stylists of today we would get the stylists surnames as the style, branded, trade marked and copyright protected! - I could think of nothing worse.

Oh I dunno - I think Tickle Style has a certain ring to it. Very Happy If nothing else it might just summon up the right amount of fun and pleasure which is what bonsai should be about. cheers king jocolor geek

Think all the heavy stuff of this thread is about done now.

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Post  Max on Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:07 pm

Marcus,
you didn't read the whole thread!
Otherwise you would have realized that I wrote exactly the same and that my question was ironic in that context.
marcus watts wrote:
the act of inventing something is constructive and unique. At most you only need to describe it or show it - you are the inventor.
To name an invention is a secondary act to create wide spread understanding, or branding, of the invention. Whether you choose to add a name or not does not effect the fact you are the inventor - how do you explain modern branding where an inventor shows his product and a marketing person names it......??

Luckily all the proper bonsai styles were created, 'named' and described long before ridiculous egos got involved
I do exactly say what you write here!!!

The only thing I didn't write but do also think like you is:
marcus watts wrote:- if left to the stylists of today we would get the stylists surnames as the style, branded, trade marked and copyright protected! - I could think of nothing worse. And personally I believe no-one invented a bonsai tree style - they evolved over many years or were copied from nature, so that goes for South Africa too.

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Post  Max on Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:09 pm

fiona wrote:It's one of their four major bonsai styles, Max.


You mean creapy crawly?... Smile

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Post  marcus watts on Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:25 pm

max, how do you split quotes into different text boxes?

and anybody.....is there an easy way to add many quotes to one reply so it is a quote, my reply, next quote & my reply etc etc

cheers for help to make replies neater

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Post  marcus watts on Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:38 pm

fiona wrote:
marcus watts wrote: if left to the stylists of today we would get the stylists surnames as the style, branded, trade marked and copyright protected! - I could think of nothing worse.

Oh I dunno - I think Tickle Style has a certain ring to it. Very Happy If nothing else it might just summon up the right amount of fun and pleasure which is what bonsai should be about. cheers king jocolor geek

Think all the heavy stuff of this thread is about done now.

haha, love it Fi.....

the Tickle turn, the Barton Bend, the Adams angle and the Tea turn (love peterT, best blog on Tinternet)

sorry but cant do a good one for fiona, Snart or Watts!!!!!!!!!!! - but good fun all the same.

on a scale of sense of humour can i do a league table??...please xxx

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Post  fiona on Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:05 pm

marcus watts wrote: max, how do you split quotes into different text boxes?

It's dead easy Marcus. Quotes are separated by bits of code. When you hit the Quote button you will see two bits - one at the beginning of the quote and one at the end.

To split up the quote, you just hit the Quote button as normal but then separate out the individual sections you want to comment on using the appropriate bit of code. Simplest way of recreating the code is to copy and paste as it appears on the original bit you've quoted.


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Post  gman on Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:59 pm

Marcus,
I see that you like Peters blog, I think then you'd like this one too
http://bonsaitonight.com/
Cheers G.
haha, love it Fi.....

the Tickle turn, the Barton Bend, the Adams angle and the Tea turn (love peterT, best blog on Tinternet)

sorry but cant do a good one for fiona, Snart or Watts!!!!!!!!!!! - but good fun all the same.

on a scale of sense of humour can i do a league table??...please xxx

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