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chinese quince anyone knows how to have back buds?

Post  quatrefi on Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:21 pm

Hello here's a chinese quince i've had for four years.

He's in good health but, it's hard for me to have back buds.

What i did in the apst was to cutt the tip of the branches in winter, but when he buds, it's again on the tip of branches, making new long tips and almost nothing else.

Anyone has another method?




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Re: chinese quince anyone knows how to have back buds?

Post  Poink88 on Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:48 pm

Try downloading this PDF

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&ved=0CEIQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.internationalbonsai.com%2Ffiles%2F1708315%2Fuploaded%2Fflowering_quince_article.pdf&ei=0qYyT4ibHKThsQLhhaH-Bg&usg=AFQjCNEsAP8Z7Duj8TleNoeA1lKJ75YyGA&sig2=ZXn1iZB-XWbb6f27HndHUw

Also try these links:
http://www.absolutebonsai.com/quince_bonsai
http://www.bonsai4me.com/SpeciesGuide/Chaenomeles.html

"Pruning and wiring: Fruiting and flowering can sap the plant's energy dramatically, so it is wise to limit the amount by picking off developing fruit and flower buds, especially in young bonsai. Flowering quince likes to sucker from the roots. Suckers should be removed if a thich trunk is desired; however, thick trunks can be difficult to achieve, especially in some popular C. japonica cultivars such as 'Chojubai.' These plants are most often grown in clump style. Some species may need to be cut back hard to encourage branch formation. New shoots should be cut back to 1-2 leaves after 5-7 leaves have formed, which may be as often as every two weeks in a vigorous plant. Chaenomeles can be wired from spring through the end of summer, leaving the wire on for up to four months, and can be repeated yearly."

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Post  JimLewis on Wed Feb 08, 2012 5:17 pm

Prune end buds on ALL branches.

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Post  drgonzo on Wed Feb 08, 2012 5:29 pm

What an absolutely beautiful tree!
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Post  GaryWood on Wed Feb 08, 2012 6:19 pm

Poink88 wrote:Try downloading this PDF

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&ved=0CEIQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.internationalbonsai.com%2Ffiles%2F1708315%2Fuploaded%2Fflowering_quince_article.pdf&ei=0qYyT4ibHKThsQLhhaH-Bg&usg=AFQjCNEsAP8Z7Duj8TleNoeA1lKJ75YyGA&sig2=ZXn1iZB-XWbb6f27HndHUw

Also try these links:
http://www.absolutebonsai.com/quince_bonsai
http://www.bonsai4me.com/SpeciesGuide/Chaenomeles.html

"Pruning and wiring: Fruiting and flowering can sap the plant's energy dramatically, so it is wise to limit the amount by picking off developing fruit and flower buds, especially in young bonsai. Flowering quince likes to sucker from the roots. Suckers should be removed if a thich trunk is desired; however, thick trunks can be difficult to achieve, especially in some popular C. japonica cultivars such as 'Chojubai.' These plants are most often grown in clump style. Some species may need to be cut back hard to encourage branch formation. New shoots should be cut back to 1-2 leaves after 5-7 leaves have formed, which may be as often as every two weeks in a vigorous plant. Chaenomeles can be wired from spring through the end of summer, leaving the wire on for up to four months, and can be repeated yearly."

pseduocydonia sinensis would be a better search.
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Post  quatrefi on Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:56 am

Hello thanks for your answers.

Poink88--your links are for japanese quince and mine is a chines quince (pseudocydonia sinensis)

But this paragraph is very interesting, is it for chinese quince?
"Pruning and wiring: Fruiting and flowering can sap the plant's energy dramatically, so it is wise to limit the amount by picking off developing fruit and flower buds, especially in young bonsai. Flowering quince likes to sucker from the roots. Suckers should be removed if a thich trunk is desired; however, thick trunks can be difficult to achieve, especially in some popular C. japonica cultivars such as 'Chojubai.' These plants are most often grown in clump style. Some species may need to be cut back hard to encourage branch formation. New shoots should be cut back to 1-2 leaves after 5-7 leaves have formed, which may be as often as every two weeks in a vigorous plant. Chaenomeles can be wired from spring through the end of summer, leaving the wire on for up to four months, and can be repeated yearly."

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Post  dick benbow on Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:43 am

This is timely. My CHINESE quince is going thru the same response. I'm off to volunteer at the pacific rim Bonsai
exhibit today and will ask the curator what he recommends. He has a beautiful olde tree in his personal collection
without that problem. Smile

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Post  dick benbow on Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:27 pm

before leaving for the collection to volunteer, I ran across a copy of bonsai today from 1996, issue 46, that has thorough information on how to correct our concern. I'll see what Mr De Groot says but if you can get your hands on a copy it would be worth while. Smile

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Re: chinese quince anyone knows how to have back buds?

Post  Poink88 on Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:58 pm

Oops...I'm sorry. Embarassed

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Post  dick benbow on Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:43 am

The curator says once the buds begin to swell on the chinese quince you can cut them back hard. This is pretty much what the article says that i mentioned earlier.

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Post  drgonzo on Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:53 am

dick benbow wrote:The curator says once the buds begin to swell on the chinese quince you can cut them back hard. This is pretty much what the article says that i mentioned earlier.


This is exactly what I was thinking in that it takes the swelling terminal bud to produce the auxin that inhibits the back budding, once removed the tree doesn't have time to simply promote the next bud in line to "leader" hence the auxin is not introduced again! Awesome thanks for asking for us Dick. I wonder what other species this trick might be usefull with. That makes a lot of sense botanically.

-Jay

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Chinese Quince

Post  bonsaisr on Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:06 am

Chinese quince is now Chaenomeles sinensis.
Iris

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Post  drgonzo on Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:45 am

bonsaisr wrote:Chinese quince is now Chaenomeles sinensis.
Iris

So its back where it started from?
-Jay

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Post  Nunovsky_PT on Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:13 pm

bonsaisr wrote:Chinese quince is now Chaenomeles sinensis.
Iris

Actually it's called pseudocydonia sinensis.

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Post  JimLewis on Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:40 pm

Nunovsky_PT wrote:
bonsaisr wrote:Chinese quince is now Chaenomeles sinensis.
Iris

Actually it's called pseudocydonia sinensis.

Apparently not. That is an old name. The taxonomists strike again.

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