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Post  rafalbar Wed May 19, 2010 9:59 pm

Hi, this is one of my pine trees with a small stone with moss and a four pictograms calligraphy written in Chinese,

"The conquest of the biggest starts as small"

translation of a famous saying popular.En original pictograms appear for large (the first) and small (the last), which shows the highly visual concept of the Chinese language.

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Post  gregb Thu May 20, 2010 1:31 am

Nice little tree you've got there. Thanks for the translation--I'm always at a loss when I see scrolls w/Chinese characters scratch It could be saying western attempts at bonsai are foolhardy for all we know lol!

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Post  athrun Thu May 20, 2010 10:37 pm

Hi, rafa.
more pic of your pines!!!!
cheers cheers

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Post  rafalbar Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:34 am

Gregb Thanks for your comments and Athrun,

Photo update Pine

Greetings

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Post  Ravi Kiran Sat Feb 26, 2011 5:52 am

Hi Rafa...

Very nice trees. I liked the pot of the second tree very much, especially the ingrained design....

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Post  rafalbar Sat Feb 26, 2011 7:11 am

Thanks Ravi, the pot is Erin Pots

The first photo of this one is the 2005 Pine

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Post  rafalbar Sat Feb 26, 2011 7:16 am

A photoshop, and source of inspiration

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Post  Guest Sat Feb 26, 2011 7:27 am

Some lovely Sylvestris and great work.

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Post  jupp Sat Feb 26, 2011 8:41 am

Great pine trees and beautifully designed ThumbsUp
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Post  martin kolacia Sat Feb 26, 2011 8:46 am

hmmm .... very nice silvestris....I like your selection of pots ... IMHO traditional pots are for silvestris bonsai trees the best
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Post  sunip Sat Feb 26, 2011 10:32 am

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Hello Rafalbar,
Thinking on the post we had lately on display and using of scrolls with characters,
some thoughts on this display if you like.
In this picture the stand under the tree is better but could still be more simple .
Here the Chinese characters show how they are in their nature able to be in union with the rest.
Here you see how in spite of that the scroll is quit big and in size about the same as the tree,
because of its chosen material, no extra frame and its simplicity, it still is fine.
The darkness of the ink however i feel i would have done lighter (adding more water to it) to get more distance.
and a better balance to the bunjingi.
Now it is to present like a dogma, i feel it would be better like a light haze giving its meaning.
Also the scroll itself would be better having two centimeters more on the underside.
Thanks i was pleased to see a simple display.
regards, Sunip;)

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Post  Khaimraj Seepersad Sat Feb 26, 2011 11:31 am

Sunip,

interesting comments. If I look at it as a Still Life [ Natura Morte ] painting, the comment on paler ink makes more sense, and I always find myself wanting deeper shelves, so there can be a greater sense of depth and thus distance between the accent and the tree.

I wonder if the earlier Tokonome displays were more like paintings and somehow a convention came about, re-forming to what we see today??
Until.
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Post  sunip Sat Feb 26, 2011 1:26 pm

Hello Rafalbar- Khaimraj.
Still Life sounds better then Natura Morte don't you think?
I feel it is much about the need for a secluded space-environment to appreciate and reflect about life as it is, which is not secluded.
It can be a garden or a place in the house.
It can be just for decoration.
But when things are in harmony,
and now i mean when the composition is natural, (unwanted)
the possible outcome so to speak of the reflection ads surplus value, as it is natural and also not staged by us.
Beauty is then about more then only, let say decoration,
it is about getting conscious of the natural harmony behind everything
and receiving suggestions on maybe unconscious questions.
Conventions and rules are good for those who need them.
By the way, did you observed that beautiful shari like a mountain waterfall,
what tells it to us?
How would a display look with this waterfall as center of meditation?
regards, Sunip Wink

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Post  Khaimraj Seepersad Sat Feb 26, 2011 1:50 pm

Sunip,

I used Natura Morte, because I was not sure what it was called on your side - Still Life or Natura Morte ?

Well done Still Life paintings are never decoration. They are windows, that allow us to pause and contemplate. The more natural the placement, the greater the ease with which one slips into the mode of contemplation.
If the West is going to adapt/to the Tokonome, I would say two things are needed, one the original idea behind the Tokonome and the use of Still Life as Westerners know it.

Nice bit of imagination with the waterfall shari, I would not have seen it as that at all. In fact I would probably not have seen it. Thanks for the heads up.
Now that I see it, the image completes itself as a great pine that has lived it"s life perhaps precariously on the edge of a waterfall.

Perhaps, "The conquest of the biggest starts as small" --- works as, "the longest journey begins with the first step," with which I see the pine as a seedling growing in the crack of a waterfall rock to become venerable.

Three objects to harmonise as Still Life, simplicity is always difficult, but so elegant.
Until.
Khaimraj



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Post  sunip Sat Feb 26, 2011 9:17 pm

Hello Rafalbar-Khaimraj,
Some thoughts.
Still-Life or Nature-Mort, it depends on the language.
But the idea of a Still Life to understand something of the Tokoname idea is usefull i think.
When one talks about -the original idea behind the tokoname-;
i feel there is no original idea, just the individual need to place something somewhere and appreciate.
From there starts a whole world of possibilties, depending on the individual concerned
and yes mutual also guidelines and so on to train mind and eye.
But i feel a secret is, that doing bonsai is not about bonsai, like art is not about art in the end.
It is a way to awareness of harmony in everything that Rafalbar is walking and yes there is a natural elegancy in it.
When you say, (having the pine as seedling in mind); "the longest journey begins with the first step"
The waterfall shari says me; the first step and the last step are one, otherwise there is no path,
no water, no source nor sea.
regards, Sunip Wink

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Post  rafalbar Sun Feb 27, 2011 5:50 pm

Thank you very much for your comments and advice, although my language is a barrier, I more or less vuetras findings but cost me a little

for the next go intetare Fixed errors

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Post  rafalbar Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:28 pm

Hello and belatedly, thank you all for your comments,

New photos of the pines

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And another, in the absence of its new pots

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Post  abcd Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:20 am

hello,
my vision off this tree : For me, because of heavy snow in winter, the longest branch should be vertical.

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Post  rafalbar Sat Feb 04, 2012 5:38 am

Abcd thank you very much,

very interesting design, it seems one with the vertical leg, I do.

a video of the same pine

https://youtu.be/GJruK4yzfNk
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