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Post  Simo44 on Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:31 pm

Hi everyone. My first post here.

I have a Yamadori Larch that needs a new pot this year. What style would suit this tree?


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Re: A suitable pot

Post  Todd Ellis on Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:43 pm

The best pot for this tree is in my backyard on this side of the pond. Very Happy
I am thinking an oval unglazed with nail heads.... and the two lowest branches raised and pruned back some.
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Post  Poink88 on Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:06 pm

Todd Ellis wrote:The best pot for this tree is in my backyard on this side of the pond. Very Happy
Todd, Are you offering him your pot? Wink LOL

Very nice tree BTW.

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Post  Rui Marques on Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:57 pm

I like the tree very much, also. Love to have one, or similar.. Very Happy

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Post  Todd Ellis on Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:31 pm

No Dario, ... just want him to send the tree over here Smile
My other thoughts were to plant this on a special rock; Walter Pall's blog has some great photos of conifers on stone.

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Post  Simo44 on Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:40 pm

Todd Ellis wrote:No Dario, ... just want him to send the tree over here Smile
My other thoughts were to plant this on a special rock; Walter Pall's blog has some great photos of conifers on stone.

On a rock? Can't see it myself Rolling Eyes

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Post  Poink88 on Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:52 pm

Todd Ellis wrote:No Dario, ... just want him to send the tree over here Smile
I know...isn't that the ultimate compliment? Smile

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Re: A suitable pot

Post  Ryan B on Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:00 pm

I think a thin stone slab 20% or so longer than the width of the canopy would look great. I also think a sft rectangle with small lip and cloud feet would look great.

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Re: A suitable pot

Post  alonsou on Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:08 pm

This is how I would like to see it.


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Post  Simo44 on Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:13 pm

alonsou wrote:This is how I would like to see it.


That looks pretty good. I was thinking something round or oval with a natural finish. The tree has great bark, would a rough finish compliment it?

Thanks for the wonderful virtual!

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Post  Klaudia & Martin on Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:20 pm

Hello Simo

What a nice larch you have got!
What do you think about a more natural pot?
I've done a quick virtual....maybe you like it.

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Re: A suitable pot

Post  Simo44 on Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:06 pm

Thanks for the virt Martin.

Interesting choice. Personally, I am not a big fan of primatives, other than for a tall and thin Bunjin.

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Re: A suitable pot

Post  Jesse on Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:09 pm

Wow, I like that pot Martin. Not my first choice with that exact tree; but, I think that is exceptional. You made it? Makes me want to get a tree to fit that pot, haha.

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Post  Klaudia & Martin on Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:38 pm

Hello Simo

Well, only your taste is important!

@Jesse
You made it? Makes me want to get a tree to fit that pot, haha.
Thank you! Yes I made it. You can see a few more here.

http://ibonsaiclub.forumotion.com/t3701-martin-s-pots

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Post  marcus watts on Sat Feb 04, 2012 7:11 am

hi,
here is a pot that was made for my black pine - nice texture to pick up the bark and it works with the larch bark too.

Pot made by erin, well worth looking to them for excelent textured pots - i have a couple now for trees with nice bark - and as mentioned once in the post already the bottom branches are too long for the powerful image from the rest of the tree so here is a pic with them shorter - makes the tree look bigger i think

cheers Marcus


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Post  Simo44 on Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:23 am

marcus watts wrote:hi,
here is a pot that was made for my black pine - nice texture to pick up the bark and it works with the larch bark too.

Pot made by erin, well worth looking to them for excelent textured pots - i have a couple now for trees with nice bark - and as mentioned once in the post already the bottom branches are too long for the powerful image from the rest of the tree so here is a pic with them shorter - makes the tree look bigger i think

cheers Marcus


Hi Marcus.
Thanks for the virt.

The pot, I love, maybe a bit dark for a larch?...it looks good for the tree with the texture. I was originally thinking round or oval, but a soft rectangle seems to work.

Chopping back the bottom branches doesn't work for me. it makes the whole tree now look top heavy. I agree something is wrong, but if you saw that left hand primary branch in the flesh you would not want to loose it! Maybe the problem lies with that lower right branch. I find it too straight and all on one plane.

Paul Finch styled this tree for me. He is a big fan of it and asked that if I ever sell, that he gets first refusal. Yamadori Chuin Larches like this seem quite rare.

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Post  marcus watts on Mon Feb 06, 2012 7:01 am

Hi again,
here is a quick play with ps on the pot - there is the original, a red/brown and a light brown tint all side by side - I fully can see what you mean about the branches - but i thing one powerfull dropping branch would be better than one each side - it is the right one that doesnt gell with the rest of the tree i think.



cheers Marcus

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Post  Tony on Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:58 am

HI Simon, Paul (great artist) has done a truly lovely job on this larch... and he is correct when he says that are rarely seen... or as good as this. These virtuals give you a good indication, and a direction. Your next move is to take the tree to a potter (lots here on IBC) or go to a BTA event where there are a few potters, take your tree... and discuss. This is my preferred option as you can get comparisons on quality, price and styles all in one place. Cool

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Re: A suitable pot

Post  Simo44 on Mon Feb 06, 2012 4:34 pm

Marcus - thanks for the colour ideas...a bit less red and I think it's there. Infact, I have already spoke with Erin Ceramics.

Hi Tony. That's quiet a compliment for the tree coming from someone with a Yamadori collection such as yours...thank you. Sure, ideal scenario would be to take it to an event with multiple potters showing. I think I'm going to get it into something 'closer' to where it should be this season. Then, if the opportunity arises in the future, I will do as you suggested.

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Post  will baddeley on Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:58 pm

Fantastic styling by Paul and I'm sure as the tree evolves, the bottom branches will be resolved. Gordon Duffet is particularly good with bespoke pots and he's not far from you either. Quite expensive but the tree has to be worth it.

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Post  Simo44 on Tue Feb 07, 2012 7:15 am

will baddeley wrote:Fantastic styling by Paul and I'm sure as the tree evolves, the bottom branches will be resolved. Gordon Duffet is particularly good with bespoke pots and he's not far from you either. Quite expensive but the tree has to be worth it.

Hi Will.

I agree Paul is a very talented guy. Both with his real bonsai and clay creations. He has an amazing knack of turning average material into something quite special. He is working on a yamadori Bunjin pine of mine at the moment. Sadly, I have never kept a photographic history of this tree (poor for a full-time photographer!) It's unrecognizable from where it was around 9 years ago. He has even put bends into a thick trunk over the years. I'll post a pic when I get it back.

I haven't seen much of Gordon Duffet's work and didn't know he was located near by - definately need to make the effort and get to a decent size show this year. I'm quite keen on John Pitt's work and have a feeling the final pot for this tree will come from him.

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a suitable pot

Post  bob hill on Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:27 pm

hi paul personally i would like to see the larch in a nice round pot(sorry cant do verts yet) china mist make some cracking ones, but not sure if they are still producing them. as for the tree i think you have done a really fantastic job with it,lovely image, great material, in the right hands, well done thumbs up thumbs up bob hill.

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Post  Simo44 on Tue Feb 07, 2012 7:38 pm

bob hill wrote:hi paul personally i would like to see the larch in a nice round pot(sorry cant do verts yet) china mist make some cracking ones, but not sure if they are still producing them. as for the tree i think you have done a really fantastic job with it,lovely image, great material, in the right hands, well done thumbs up thumbs up bob hill.

Hello Bob.

I'm Not Paul. He styled the tree for me.

Thanks for suggesting China Mist. I had never heard of them. Seems like they specialize in rounds...and quiet nice ones, at a reasonable price too. I have decided on a soft rectangle from Erin for a first 'bijou' residence for this tree. However, I do have a couple of Scotties in need of new pots this year and may well try China Mist.

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Post  bob hill on Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:29 pm

hi simo, Embarassed sorry about the name mix up(blame the abbots ale mate.) still this reply has give,n me another look at your tree,i love it bob

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Post  Simo44 on Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:43 pm

bob hill wrote:hi paul personally i would like to see the larch in a nice round pot(sorry cant do verts yet) china mist make some cracking ones, but not sure if they are still producing them. as for the tree i think you have done a really fantastic job with it,lovely image, great material, in the right hands, well done thumbs up thumbs up bob hill.

I have re-potted the larch into a China Mist pot today. Erin could not get the right finish and size to me in time.

Thanks for suggesting China Mist Bob, the pot is really superb and beautifully made.

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