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Post  moyogijohn on Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:57 pm






This is the shrub I was asking about. What do you think and suggestions for pruning. Thank you very much! John

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Post  moyogijohn on Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:32 pm

My daughter came and posted pictures for me.. I will let the masters see if this can be a bonsai or not !! please show the pruning places ect. thank you much take care john

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Post  JimLewis on Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:48 pm

Not a lot of pruning needed at this point. The first branch on the right is kinda large for being that high on the tree, though.

How large is it?

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Post  moyogijohn on Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:03 pm

JIM,, The trunk base is 2 inches...heigth now is 25 inches.. i had to cut the height down to bring it home..hope this helps...thanks john

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Re: Witch Hazel

Post  drgonzo on Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:55 am

John

Keep in mind as you go forward with this species, you will primarily be displaying it in early spring/late winter when it flowers. The branches will be bare so having good twiggy branches that are proportioned well is going to be very important. When the witch hazel is in leaf your going to want to hide it as the leaves are large and in my opinion kinda ugly. I would begin with just establishing a trunk line and get rid of large branches as Jim suggests, style for a winter silhouette because thats what you'll be displaying.

Good luck I look forward to seeing how this tree progresses!
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Post  drgonzo on Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:06 am

Here's where I would probably begin If I had this guy on my bench.
might even try to get some of the smaller branches back in further, maybe even that bottom left branch if you think you could get a bud closer in toward the trunk to break for you.... but this is a rough idea. You might even be able to go in tighter than that on the apex.

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Post  moyogijohn on Thu Jan 26, 2012 2:30 am

DRGONZA Thank you very much for your comments and the places you would prune this one... JIM said the thick branch was too high,,i figured it was also... one more question please,, when would you prune this to hope for more branches to pop ?? i ment buds !! thank you take care john

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Post  drgonzo on Thu Jan 26, 2012 2:37 am

moyogijohn wrote:DRGONZA Thank you very much for your comments and the places you would prune this one... JIM said the thick branch was too high,,i figured it was also... one more question please,, when would you prune this to hope for more branches to pop ?? i ment buds !! thank you take care john

I wish I knew , I would assume after its done flowering but I haven't worked with witch hazel yet, I would like to know as well.
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Post  JimLewis on Thu Jan 26, 2012 2:18 pm

I treat my winter hazel just like any other deciduous tree, and prune in very early spring.

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Re: Witch Hazel

Post  coh on Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:15 am

Couple of questions -
(1) Did you acquire the tree in this pot, or have you recently repotted it?
(2) Do you have any plans as to how big of a tree you ultimately want?

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Post  moyogijohn on Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:57 am

CRIS,,, It was in the pot when i got it ,,local nursery that is closeing down.. the height now is 25 ins. maybe i will stay with that ???? any suggestions for me ??thanks take care john

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Post  JimLewis on Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:00 pm

John:

Here is a nice witch hazel: http://bonsainut.com/forums/showthread.php?6916-Three-Friends-of-Winter

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Post  moyogijohn on Sun Jan 29, 2012 5:53 pm

JIM ,, That is a really nice tree ! Thank you for posting it.. of course mine will not look like that but i do like the yellow flowers on bare branches. Thank you take care john

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Post  Jesse on Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:25 pm

Just a thought I had for this tree. Maybe use the thick right branch as the new leader and lose the current top? That would help get some movement and taper into the trunk. Would require a slight change in the potting angle...and then cutting back a bit to promote some back budding of branches, etc.

Here is a quick virt of what I had in mind:

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Anyway, just a rough idea.

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Post  Jesse on Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:28 pm

Though the improvement in taper would be negligible since the new leader is about as thick as the other one.

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Post  moyogijohn on Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:45 am

JESSE ,, Thank you for your suggestion and virt .. i wanted a strighter tree so the large branch is gone,,the cut sealed.. look at the virt. above see what you think.. thank you take care john

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Post  coh on Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:34 am

So the large branch is gone...did you remove anything else? Can you post an updated photo?

I like the idea of a straighter tree, but am thinking that maybe the overall height needs to be reduced a bit to encourage back-budding and eventually introduce more taper into the upper part of the trunk. Based on the virt Jay provided (don't have time to make my own), maybe cut above that 3rd branch? Looks like there might be some reverse taper above that area?

Caveat, I've not worked with this species and have no idea how they respond to pruning!

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Post  moyogijohn on Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:07 am

CHRIS,, I will get another picture up soon... i never worked one befor either but i like the little flowers so i will give this one a try..thanks take care john

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