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Post  jeffrey on Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:12 pm

Here's a link of my photos Noelanders
The first 2 photos is the bonsai made of clay.
https://picasaweb.google.com/107812670643802700975/OnlangsBijgewerkt?authuser=0&feat=directlink

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Post  Pavel Slovák on Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:40 pm

Hi Jeffrey
Thank you for sharing.
Very, very nice trees. ThumbsUp ThumbsUp
Gretings Pavel

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Post  LSBonsai on Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:42 pm

Thanks for posting these.

Tough to go out on a limb based on pictures, but I think this pine has a good shot at the prize:



Other contenders IMO

This olive


This Pine


This juniper


My vote for best deciduous is this horbeam(if there is such a prize)


Anyone else want to take a shot at picking the winner?


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Post  jeffrey on Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:58 pm

Pavel Slovák wrote:Hi Jeffrey
Thank you for sharing.
Very, very nice trees. ThumbsUp ThumbsUp
Gretings Pavel

Hi Pavel, I thought you had also a tree on the show.

Grt, Jeffrey

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Post  Pavel Slovák on Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:03 pm

Hi Jeffrey
I'm not a tree for such a quality show. I think. Embarassed
Maybe sometimes. Very Happy
Gretings Pavel

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Post  Ian Young on Sat Jan 21, 2012 10:15 pm

jeffrey wrote:Here's a link of my photos Noelanders
The first 2 photos is the bonsai made of clay.
https://picasaweb.google.com/107812670643802700975/OnlangsBijgewerkt?authuser=0&feat=directlink

Jeffrey, thanks for these. I appreciate the quick posting. Kicking myself for not going this year bounce
Now we await the results ThumbsUp

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Post  rolandp on Sat Jan 21, 2012 10:28 pm

Hi IBC friedns. The Exhibition and the demos are realy great.
Here are some additiona photos from today, more photos soon.
























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Post  Ian Young on Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:12 pm

Some more photos from the Trophy including some from the demo.

Harry's Noelanders Trophy Photos

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Post  sunip on Sun Jan 22, 2012 1:45 pm

Hy Ian,
Thanks for posting Harry's pictures.
Thanks Jeffry and Roland, great to see them again.
Sunip Wink

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Post  fM on Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:15 pm

Hi guys, Jeffrey thanks very much for sharing, beautifull trees

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Post  cosmos on Tue Jan 24, 2012 3:00 pm

Can anyone explain to me my impression that one of the judges seemed to have auto-judged his tree (with the other judges) and was rewarded. Specififcally, I saw a semi-cascade pine (Kifu size) awarded and amognst the six signatures of the judges there was his signature as well!

For me, the tree that stole my heart was a small buxus herlandi (covered with small flowers and leaves and had a very textured bark).

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Post  Rob Kempinski on Tue Jan 24, 2012 3:32 pm

cosmos wrote:Can anyone explain to me my impression that one of the judges seemed to have auto-judged his tree (with the other judges) and was rewarded. Specififcally, I saw a semi-cascade pine (Kifu size) awarded and amognst the six signatures of the judges there was his signature as well!

Cosmos


The demonstrators were the Noelanders judges. Owners recused themselves from voting on their own trees and the remaining judges decided. But all of them signed the certificates before the winner went on.

The BCI Excellence Award was decided by the BCI Board Members attending.


cosmos wrote:C
For me, the tree that stole my heart was a small buxus herlandi (covered with small flowers and leaves and had a very textured bark).

It was a sweet tree - never seen one flower like that. And the rest of the trees in the exhibition were well done also. There were so many great trees. Hard to decide.

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Post  caycanhvn2012 on Tue Jan 24, 2012 3:45 pm

thank for share. santa

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Post  Sam Ogranaja on Tue Jan 24, 2012 3:51 pm

a2khalid wrote:Thanks for posting these.

Tough to go out on a limb based on pictures, but I think this pine has a good shot at the prize:



Isn't this Mario Komsta's Red Pine that was in the Kokufu Ten?

Amazing trees!!!!
Thank you for posting!!!
~Sam~

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Post  Mark Cooper on Tue Jan 24, 2012 3:53 pm

cosmos wrote:
For me, the tree that stole my heart was a small buxus herlandi (covered with small flowers and leaves and had a very textured bark).

Cosmos


Here's my photo of the tree you mentioned (Buxus Harlandii). It really was a little beauty!..


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Post  Mark Cooper on Tue Jan 24, 2012 3:55 pm

Sam Ogranaja wrote:
a2khalid wrote:Thanks for posting these.

Tough to go out on a limb based on pictures, but I think this pine has a good shot at the prize:


Isn't this Mario Komsta's Red Pine that was in the Kokufu Ten?

Amazing trees!!!!
Thank you for posting!!!
~Sam~

Yes, it was Sam. Mario's display was exquisite.


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Post  jonathan e on Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:16 pm

a2khalid wrote:
My vote for best deciduous is this horbeam(if there is such a prize)




I really like the hornbeam, too, though with a few cuts and bends it could look a lot more like a proper deciduous tree rather than a pine-like bonsai:
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Post  Poink88 on Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:25 pm

jonathan espalin wrote: I really like the hornbeam, too, though with a few cuts and bends it could look a lot more like a proper deciduous tree rather than a pine-like
That was my first reaction after seeing this tree as well. I thought the height need to be reduced by 20% but (being a newbie) I am not worthy to critique such a magnificent tree.

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Post  Russell Coker on Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:49 pm



Pine-like? Really?

Y'all just destroyed a lot of that tree's charm and beauty. (Imho)

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Post  David Carvalho on Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:51 pm

Jonathan espalin,

I really really hope you are joking. lol.

Cheers,
David

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Post  jonathan e on Tue Jan 24, 2012 7:23 pm

Russell Coker wrote:

Pine-like? Really?

Y'all just destroyed a lot of that tree's charm and beauty. (Imho)

Ok. I won't be working on any of your trees then.

Yes, pine-like (horizontal, tiered branching, strong central leader: features of conifers that are far too commonly applied to all bonsai, to make them look like 'bonsai'. I prefer bonsai to look like trees. Maybe you don't like my virtual changes, but it definitely looks more like a natural old deciduous tree and less like a stereotyped bonsai, which I consider an improvement.

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Post  bonsai monkey on Tue Jan 24, 2012 7:37 pm

Russell, your spot on regarding the tree's charm.

jonathan espalin wrote:
Russell Coker wrote:

Pine-like? Really?

Y'all just destroyed a lot of that tree's charm and beauty. (Imho)

Yes, pine-like (horizontal, tiered branching, strong central leader: features of conifers that are far too commonly applied to all bonsai, to make them look like 'bonsai'. I prefer bonsai to look like trees. Maybe you don't like my virtual changes, but it definitely looks more like a natural old deciduous tree and less like a stereotyped bonsai, which I consider an improvement.

I'm sorry my friend you're having a long necked African animal Mad

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Post  landerloos on Tue Jan 24, 2012 7:53 pm

My pics you can watch here, http://s1057.photobucket.com/albums/t394/psychobonsai/noelanders%20trophy%202012/

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Post  cosmos on Tue Jan 24, 2012 8:05 pm

Hi Rob
Thank you for explaining the judging for I was starting to see it from a different perspective. That is why it is always better to question to get answers before making judgements.

Thanks again.

What do you think of the 'taxus supported by an iron rod' without which the naturally hollowed trunk would have snapped? It was really impressive to see how the tree was surviving (or better still thriving judging by its green canopy).

Also I saw a pine whose needles were all cut to minimize their size. Is this allowed in exhibitions?

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Post  jonathan e on Tue Jan 24, 2012 8:09 pm

David Carvalho wrote:Jonathan espalin,

I really really hope you are joking. lol.

Cheers,
David

looking back at my proposed changes, the tree does lose something, although it also seems to gain something. Maybe the best solution is something else, but I do feel that the tree as presented a Noelanders is almost there, just not all the way, and some changes are needed to get it there.

Even if I were completely wrong, there has to be a better way to express disagreement than David and Simon's responses, though. That doesn't sound like grown-up discussion to me: a more articulate and logical response seems like it would be more appropriate for this forum.

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