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Post  Robert Steven on Fri Dec 30, 2011 12:37 pm

Well..once someone says..bonsai is just like potato chips, one is not enough. When I found this material recently at the corner of my friend's garden, I couldn' resist to buy it again. My friend was very supprised that I took this because no one like it because it's considered as "no good" for Premna, strangely straight.

Well..that's the standing out point for me to take it, one of the only kind of Premna. Quite tall, about 1 meter and for less than USD 30.- Dance


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Post  Billy M. Rhodes on Fri Dec 30, 2011 12:53 pm

Striking, can you tell us about the pot and the soil,

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Post  Robert Steven on Fri Dec 30, 2011 12:55 pm

Thanks Billy,

It's a Chinese Yixing ceramic pot and I only use volcanic sands for all my bonsai which I found better than akadama...and cheap ! It looks like grinded charcoal...

Here another striking, maybe...


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Post  Guest on Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:19 pm

Robert Steven wrote:Well..once someone says..bonsai is just like potato chips, one is not enough. When I found this material recently at the corner of my friend's garden, I couldn' resist to buy it again. My friend was very supprised that I took this because no one like it because it's considered as "no good" for Premna, strangely straight.

Well..that's the standing out point for me to take it, one of the only kind of Premna. Quite tall, about 1 meter and for less than USD 30.- Dance


...Do you need design help for this one as well?? Razz Razz Razz Razz hehehe!

By the way the pot (your present is here), need to pick it up though at the courier ofc. Many thanks Robert!

regards,
jun Smile

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Post  Robert Steven on Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:40 pm

jun wrote:...Do you need design help for this one as well?? Razz Razz Razz Razz hehehe!

By the way the pot (your present is here), need to pick it up though at the courier ofc. Many thanks Robert!

regards,
jun Smile

Not this one..maybe the second one... Very Happy

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Post  Poink88 on Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:45 pm

Robert Steven wrote:Well..once someone says..bonsai is just like potato chips, one is not enough. When I found this material recently at the corner of my friend's garden, I couldn' resist to buy it again. My friend was very supprised that I took this because no one like it because it's considered as "no good" for Premna, strangely straight.

Well..that's the standing out point for me to take it, one of the only kind of Premna. Quite tall, about 1 meter and for less than USD 30.- Dance


This looks like a Tanuki to me.

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Post  Robert Steven on Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:58 pm

Poink88 wrote:This looks like a Tanuki to me.

Do you know why it's called Tanuki ? Suspect

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Post  Guest on Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:00 pm

Robert Steven wrote:
jun wrote:...Do you need design help for this one as well?? Razz Razz Razz Razz hehehe!

By the way the pot (your present is here), need to pick it up though at the courier ofc. Many thanks Robert!

regards,
jun Smile

Not this one..maybe the second one... Very Happy

No, just this one. The second tree is more difficult.hehehe... but we'll try to help you out. Razz
Why do you keep buying materials which are difficult to design?, then you'll ask for our help later! Razz Razz I am just kidding ofcourse. Do you often do this to your students? Keep it coming Robert. I just bought new pencils yesterday time to sharpen it up.
Thanks!

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Post  carlos on Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:00 pm

Poink88 wrote:
Robert Steven wrote:Well..once someone says..bonsai is just like potato chips, one is not enough. When I found this material recently at the corner of my friend's garden, I couldn' resist to buy it again. My friend was very supprised that I took this because no one like it because it's considered as "no good" for Premna, strangely straight.

Well..that's the standing out point for me to take it, one of the only kind of Premna. Quite tall, about 1 meter and for less than USD 30.- Dance


This looks like a Tanuki to me.

No, it is not a Tanuki. Look closely at the live vein.

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Post  Poink88 on Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:04 pm

Robert Steven wrote:
Poink88 wrote:This looks like a Tanuki to me.

Do you know why it's called Tanuki ? Suspect

Yes sir I do. I am not saying it is a Tanuki...but looks like one to me.

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Post  Poink88 on Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:06 pm

carlos wrote:
No, it is not a Tanuki. Look closely at the live vein.

Yeah, most rather all Tanuki actually have that live "vein".

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Post  Robert Steven on Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:06 pm

jun wrote:Why do you keep buying materials which are difficult to design?regards,
jun Smile

So I can get them cheap, as always.... cheers

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Post  Guest on Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:11 pm

Robert Steven wrote:
jun wrote:Why do you keep buying materials which are difficult to design?regards,
jun Smile

So I can get them cheap, as always.... cheers


...a wise man indeed! pirat

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Post  Robert Steven on Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:17 pm

Poink88 wrote:
carlos wrote:
No, it is not a Tanuki. Look closely at the live vein.

Yeah, most rather all Tanuki actually have that live "vein".

No, tanuki doesn't have such exposing living vein, they are always hiding between the deadwood, that's why it's call "tanuki", a small tricky animal trying to camouflage...

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Post  Guest on Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:20 pm

Carlos and Poink,

In Asia where trees grows very fast and we rarely got hardwoods suitable for "tanuki" .It is very rare to see such technique done here. Even some people here doing Bonsai won't even know the concept of tanuki and would probably find is strange if not funny to "resurrect" a dead tree by attaching live veins into it.
..but I am planning to do Tanuki in some carcasses of Phempis acidula. It's a better option than turning the nice deadwood into a charcoal. Razz

regards,
jun Smile

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Post  Robert Steven on Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:27 pm

jun wrote:Carlos and Poink,

In Asia where trees grows very fast and we rarely got hardwoods suitable for "tanuki" .It is very rare to see such technique done here. Even some people here doing Bonsai won't even know the concept of tanuki and would probably find is strange if not funny to "resurrect" a dead tree by attaching live veins into it.
..but I am planning to do Tanuki in some carcasses of Phempis acidula. It's a better option than turning the nice deadwood into a charcoal. Razz

regards,
jun Smile

Just for fun is OK..but my personal point of view, NO... Evil or Very Mad

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Post  Poink88 on Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:29 pm

Robert Steven wrote:
Poink88 wrote:
carlos wrote:
No, it is not a Tanuki. Look closely at the live vein.

Yeah, most rather all Tanuki actually have that live "vein".

No, tanuki doesn't have such exposing living vein, they are always hiding between the deadwood, that's why it's call "tanuki", a small tricky animal trying to camouflage...

A properly done and advanced Tanuki should ideally be that way but not all...especially in the early stages.

I am a newbie and does not profess to know anything...just my thoughts (maybe better kept to myself). Thank you.

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Post  Robert Steven on Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:34 pm

Poink88 wrote:
Robert Steven wrote:
Poink88 wrote:
carlos wrote:
No, it is not a Tanuki. Look closely at the live vein.

Yeah, most rather all Tanuki actually have that live "vein".

No, tanuki doesn't have such exposing living vein, they are always hiding between the deadwood, that's why it's call "tanuki", a small tricky animal trying to camouflage...

A properly done and advanced Tanuki should ideally be that way but not all...especially in the early stages.

I am a newbie and does not profess to know anything...just my thoughts (maybe better kept to myself). Thank you.

That's fine, nothing wrong for liking tanuki. But just my personal thing, I will never do it, a "tanuki" way to make "bonsai"...

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Post  Poink88 on Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:37 pm

Robert Steven wrote:
That's fine, nothing wrong for liking tanuki. But just my personal thing, I will never do it, a "tanuki" way to make "bonsai"...

I never said I like Tanuki. I don't see anything wrong with it...just not as good as a real one.

I believe it is an art by itself and some have to resort to it because of lack of choice or as Jun mentioned...to salvage a good drift wood.

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Post  Guest on Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:45 pm

Robert Steven wrote:
jun wrote:Carlos and Poink,

In Asia where trees grows very fast and we rarely got hardwoods suitable for "tanuki" .It is very rare to see such technique done here. Even some people here doing Bonsai won't even know the concept of tanuki and would probably find is strange if not funny to "resurrect" a dead tree by attaching live veins into it.
..but I am planning to do Tanuki in some carcasses of Phempis acidula. It's a better option than turning the nice deadwood into a charcoal. Razz

regards,
jun Smile

Just for fun is OK..but my personal point of view, NO... Evil or Very Mad

..I am planning to do a tanuki of "Hibiscus rosa-sinenses" to a deadwood of "Phempis acidula" and some other fast growing flower shurb. I think it would look nice and out of this world.

regards,
jun Smile

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Post  Poink88 on Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:48 pm

jun wrote:
Robert Steven wrote:
jun wrote:Carlos and Poink,

In Asia where trees grows very fast and we rarely got hardwoods suitable for "tanuki" .It is very rare to see such technique done here. Even some people here doing Bonsai won't even know the concept of tanuki and would probably find is strange if not funny to "resurrect" a dead tree by attaching live veins into it.
..but I am planning to do Tanuki in some carcasses of Phempis acidula. It's a better option than turning the nice deadwood into a charcoal. Razz

regards,
jun Smile

Just for fun is OK..but my personal point of view, NO... Evil or Very Mad

..I am planning to do a tanuki of "Hibiscus rosa-sinenses" to a deadwood of "Phempis acidula" and some other fast growing flower shurb. I think it would look nice and out of this world.

regards,
jun Smile

Jun,

Ever considered using small leaved & flower Bougainvillea? They grow slower but might work well.

BTW...you have very nice bonsai (kabayan) Wink

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Post  Guest on Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:25 pm

Poink,
Do have other name or we'll keep it as Poink?
Are you sure you are in Texas? and not in New York... Cubao? hehehe. Just kidding Kabayan. Bougainvillea are very prone to rotting, There is a chance that the whole project (if it push thru) might be lost if rooting occurs in the injured part of the vein. I am sure injury will happen when the live vein tightens up and water will penetrate the underside of the living part.
Thanks BTW for liking my trees.

regards,
jun Smile

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Post  Poink88 on Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:33 pm

jun wrote:Poink,
Do have other name or we'll keep it as Poink?
Are you sure you are in Texas? and not in New York... Cubao? hehehe. Just kidding Kabayan. Bougainvillea are very prone to rotting, There is a chance that the whole project (if it push thru) might be lost if rooting occurs in the injured part of the vein. I am sure injury will happen when the live vein tightens up and water will penetrate the underside of the living part.
Thanks BTW for liking my trees.

regards,
jun Smile

Sorry for the thread hi-jack.

Funny since I actually lived in Project 4 until 1991 which is just a couple miles to Cubao LOL. Not sure where in the Philippines you are, but in Manila (and here in TX) Bouggies grow very well since it loves dry weather. At any rate, I won't use a super fast growing variety for Tanuki on a Pemphis. Again, I am a newbie so don't mind me...just expressing my thoughts. Wink

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Post  Robert Steven on Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:38 pm

Or using wild rose or orchids.. Laughing Laughing

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