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drgonzo
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Re: pics of Satsuki
If someone handed me a Satsuki in that condition the only thing I probably would do is stick it in the ground until it was growing vigorously, put it in the ground, grow it out, come back to it in a few years.
-Jay
-Jay
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drgonzo- Member
Re: pics of Satsuki
Im not to familiar with S. Azalea from what im told they dont do well here but I wanted to let you know you could reply to your original thread and add pictures so your not all over the place. Maybe you can put it in the ground somewhere I dont know if you wanna disturbe the root system to much this time of year good luck
reg-i- Member
Re: pics of Satsuki
reg-i wrote:Im not to familiar with S. Azalea from what im told they dont do well here but I wanted to let you know you could reply to your original thread and add pictures so your not all over the place. Maybe you can put it in the ground somewhere I dont know if you wanna disturbe the root system to much this time of year good luck
They don't like the Florida heat and humidity although I have had one in a pot for some time.
Azaleas have very tight, compact root systems with a lot of very fine roots.
They should do well in the ground in SF, just don't plant them too deep and don't damage too many roots.
Last edited by Billy M. Rhodes on Thu Dec 22, 2011 2:40 am; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : spelling)
Billy M. Rhodes- Member
sorry about the pics
I had a hard time getting the pics on the forum , but it will improve , but I wish I could tell you what kind of Satsuki it is , but yes I been thinking of planting it in the ground but the problem is that I had a water main break here on our block and front yard is under 4feet of mud so I have a cleaning crew thats going to rip the front yard to nothing and begin anew so I dont have a backyard , so my question is what size of a pot to put it in and work from there , but yes I was thinking just put this bad boy in the ground and just wait thanks again and hope to get that picture thing worked out next time sorry again thanks from sebastin
mtrddog- Member
Re: pics of Satsuki
Hello,
From the pictures, it is a nice young plant with small leaves, i do not think it has any problems.
I bought a couple of these a year ago (mid febr) for in the garden, on three of them (with bonsai potential)
i took off the top soil to free the nerbari.
This means losing some fibrous roots because they like growing surface roots.
Then i chose the best future trunk line, so cutting some parts away but leaving low branches on the future trunk,
use cutting paste.
On should remove opposite branches on the same trunk to prevent partially thickening or inverse taper.
Then i removed a quarter on the bottem side because there are not much roots mostly and planted the rootball back in the pot with some spagnum on the nerbari, they been kept frost free in the greenhouse.
Later in spring i repotted the plants in non organic soil with pine bark and kanuma in pond baskets,
the rootball was opened then.
The pond baskets got bury'd in the garden like the other plants, and they did as good as the ones i did not worked on.
Although it is a young plant, i would take things slowly, because your climate and also because it is not clear what subspecies you have, certainly i would do the change from the existing soil to only kanuma in steps.
By using pond baskets i can easily control or remove the plants(heavy frost or in your case heath).
Sunip
From the pictures, it is a nice young plant with small leaves, i do not think it has any problems.
I bought a couple of these a year ago (mid febr) for in the garden, on three of them (with bonsai potential)
i took off the top soil to free the nerbari.
This means losing some fibrous roots because they like growing surface roots.
Then i chose the best future trunk line, so cutting some parts away but leaving low branches on the future trunk,
use cutting paste.
On should remove opposite branches on the same trunk to prevent partially thickening or inverse taper.
Then i removed a quarter on the bottem side because there are not much roots mostly and planted the rootball back in the pot with some spagnum on the nerbari, they been kept frost free in the greenhouse.
Later in spring i repotted the plants in non organic soil with pine bark and kanuma in pond baskets,
the rootball was opened then.
The pond baskets got bury'd in the garden like the other plants, and they did as good as the ones i did not worked on.
Although it is a young plant, i would take things slowly, because your climate and also because it is not clear what subspecies you have, certainly i would do the change from the existing soil to only kanuma in steps.
By using pond baskets i can easily control or remove the plants(heavy frost or in your case heath).
Sunip
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Re: pics of Satsuki
Well you need to rake open the root ball. If you would plant it like this in full ground the roots remain choked and cant grow.
Turning this into a bonsai may be difficult because it is so multibranched. You want to do what Sunip said and somehow develop a trunk line that has potential as a bonsai. Important is to know that azalea are basically dominant. The apex will be weak and you need to focus energy on the apex of what will become your trunk.
If you do nothing for a year it may grow a trunk that will be worse for bonsai than it is now. You need to prune to prevent branches from getting too thick and becoming unwanted secondary trunks.
It looks a bit like an azalea I have called 'White Moon', but there are too many cultivar that look too similar to tell anything without even seeing a picture of the flowers.
Another thing to consider is flower size. The larger the flowers, the bigger you want to bonsai to be.
Rooting new growth in june next year as you prune it off anyway may be a better but slower way to a quality bonsai. If you start with a cutting you can follow the tested approach to develop a bonsai.
If you repot right now you need to protect against frost.
Turning this into a bonsai may be difficult because it is so multibranched. You want to do what Sunip said and somehow develop a trunk line that has potential as a bonsai. Important is to know that azalea are basically dominant. The apex will be weak and you need to focus energy on the apex of what will become your trunk.
If you do nothing for a year it may grow a trunk that will be worse for bonsai than it is now. You need to prune to prevent branches from getting too thick and becoming unwanted secondary trunks.
It looks a bit like an azalea I have called 'White Moon', but there are too many cultivar that look too similar to tell anything without even seeing a picture of the flowers.
Another thing to consider is flower size. The larger the flowers, the bigger you want to bonsai to be.
Rooting new growth in june next year as you prune it off anyway may be a better but slower way to a quality bonsai. If you start with a cutting you can follow the tested approach to develop a bonsai.
If you repot right now you need to protect against frost.
Glaucus- Member
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