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Post  stonener on Sat Dec 10, 2011 12:22 am

WoW, Wow, wow! like our little dog said...
these are nice, are they from your local beach?
I was once told by my Sense "you can tell a smart man, by what he doesn't say"
never again will I give advise on display, have learned my lesson well, "less is more"
this same man told me "best suiseki" is one that can be held in the palm of your hand "comfortably"
He was 90 and the most soft spoken and intelligent man I've ever had the honor of knowing.
what you have is fine, holds the stone for viewing, need not apologize for anything!

I really like picture 1 & 4, not only a hole, but face too, especially as 4
Thank You! Sunip for your time... I love you

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Post  sunip on Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:23 am

Hello Stonener,
The stone category one can hold in the hand comfortably give some extra opportunities to appreciate,
that is why i like them.
In normal display or with bonsai one find a different category which is suitable there as viewing stone,
a small stone would be lost in such compositions.
The beaches in Holland are sand beaches and dunes, no stones there.
The stones i showed you are from mined seabed deposits used for roadwork.
About giving advise on display;
The stone choice and stone setting are personal,
another person has the possibility to wonder about the mind of the speaker and his own mind.
However if it is the choice to express certain feelings in a display,
one can ask oneself if the feeling is well evoked by the display.
Another matter is if the expression will evoke the same in another person or if this is necessary or possible.
Normally harmony in the display is the thing what is desired, because we are not natural some guidelines can be helpful.
If naturalness, in the meaning of wabi sabi, is in the veins, there are no guidelines,
even if something looks out of balance in the display it will be harmonious in itself.
Is the road, between guidelines and no guidelines, long?
Some say; if you fight against guidelines, the road will become longer,
but then if you don't, the road will also be longer.
Sunip Wink

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Post  Guest on Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:26 pm

I found this flintstone the other day.
It has a strong yellow collour from the inviroment arround it.



To Fit this topic, have I left it standing Smile ....

But this is how I would exhibit the stone....as a "landscapestone".... Please enjoy the old patina, it is almost like gobiglaze....the stone has not been cleaned or polished, and no cream or oil has been added...a little algues is in the hole will gently be removed.



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Post  sunip on Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:34 pm

Hi,

Sunip Wink

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Post  sunip on Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:45 pm

Hi,
Same stone

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Post  sunip on Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:49 pm

Hi,

Sunip Wink

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Post  Guest on Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:33 pm

OK Sunip

The last hole, I had to search for Smile......

You live in Holland...maybe you come visit me one day, and I take you out for a stonesearch...Peter also want to come...if you are in a car, can you pick Peter up on the way.

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Post  sunip on Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:04 am

Hi Yvonne,
What a nice idea to visit Denmark again.
The last stone i see as a young bird, his eye on the top is the hole.
Regards, Sunip Wink

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Post  Guest on Fri Dec 16, 2011 3:07 am

Hi Sunip

We can talk again in the beginning of the summer Smile

The little bird need a nest, to keep the ballance, IMHO Cool

Kind regards Yvonne

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Road Trip Ho's!

Post  stonener on Fri Dec 16, 2011 6:40 am

It good to have girl-friends
Hello!, Yvonne nice color and skin!, impressive hole,
can hang from neck or tree? as dick said!
real beauty! what size? I like it up!,
do you have a four door and room for one more?
on this famous road trip in the planning?
I'll ride in the back with peter...

Hi!, Sunip, nice bird! I will check now for animals,
maybe you can start thread same topic, we can follow.
I agree it does look like baby bird with fluffy white feathers,
as Ms Yvonne points out, she got a good eye!
I have been trying to find holes as face, or just holes,
but not easy, holes are hard for me...

see my friends and tell me what you think,
another one from the rock pile out back of house,
sharing is caring, and how we learn from each other,
lots of fun on cold rainy day by the fire on the computer,
... study






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Post  Guest on Fri Dec 16, 2011 3:32 pm

It is not a famous roadtrip.....Sunip lives only one large half day away, by car.

My stone is 12 - 14 cm. A little small for a suiseki, I may want to exhibit in the future.
It is not going to hang from a tree by its neck...I hope to find the the time to carve a daiza for its protection soon.

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true meaning

Post  stonener on Sat Dec 17, 2011 12:31 am

LOST IN TRANSLATION;
Hello Ms Yvonne, I too live only one large half day away, by plane!
If by grace, I ever had my dream come true,
and went on a stone collecting trip with the three of you,
it would most definitely be famous, at lest for me.

Landerloos, peter the one you made a daiza for, said "more holes than stones here many collect them to put on strings or hang in trees"
when he said strings, to me meant, wear as diamond, around neck to show natural beauty.
some of the women in our club, do this with Desert stones, wore as jewelery on special occasions.
Lady Sarah Bailey Gyer is quite famous for her collection. Everyone looks forward to new one each year.
I wonder what your stone would look like hung around my neck with a simple strand of leather?

having said this, what do you think of my landscape bridge just posted?
one of only two collected in twenty years by accident, had not seen this type before,
bridge middle picture, other two pictures wanted to be seen as face with holes,
here not easy to find great holes, your black large one posted on daiza thread, is it from China?
I'm going to river this weekend, last chance before winter snow, water flow is not deep.
will be looking for large hole to hang from tree by my front door,
I need three, but one would be satisfying, "less is more"... santa



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Post  Guest on Sat Dec 17, 2011 1:35 am

Hi stonener

I will let you know when, and if the trip becomes a fact. If you trawel all the way from California, the trip to my beach could become famous Smile.

I wear a little black beachstone from my nearby beach, arround my neck, in a leatherstring....I have done that for many years. So I understand.

I find your stone has a very nice collour and patina...and now you said it, can I see the bridge. But I dont really want to commend on it, as it is not presented as a suiseki, and you have shown you can.

The black stone is not big, only 12.5 cm. tall without the daiza....and yes, it is from China.

This kind of stone is natural flath in the buttom...in China, in the mountains, the ground sometimes looks, as it have a pavement made from stone....I have 5 of this kind of limestone from China....the rare liondog you saw, and 4 mountains.

I have seen this in a another european country..you can actully take the limestones out of the ground, the rain have formed the stones while they are in the ground. And when picked up, the flath part you walked on, will be the buttom, and the part hidden in the soil becomes the landscape...I have two very nice stones of this kind..I found them myself.
Upside dawn stones Cool

Good luck with your search for holestones bounce

Kind regards Yvonne




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for me very...

Post  stonener on Sat Dec 17, 2011 8:37 am

FAMOUS, Yes Ms Yvonne,
I only joke with you, it would be a dreams to collect in your country,
but if you ever visit California, youv'e got a friendly place to stay.
I have only collected very large heavy stones in the past,
so if kept in the house, my wife can not pick up and throw at me... affraid

this last hole stone has two bridges, dry waterfall, tunnel and a cave,
it is a Island stone when placed correctly in a suibon,
autum colors for this time of year, gold and burgandy colored jasper,
I have shown only locally collected by me California stones.

I hear you say "upside down stones" new to me,
I will look for and turn over all flat stones from now on,
hoping to find a great landscape, never done this way before.
and of course I will be looking for a wearing hole as well.
Thanks Again for taking time to share... Basketball






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latest hole found

Post  stonener on Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:15 am

Hello IBC members who have noticed.
I'm posting for those of you who have sent PMs of encouragement,
who are quietly behind the scenes and not always quick to respond.
Just found this one and now offered for your consideration... Suspect



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Post  sunip on Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:34 pm

Hello Stonener.
Thank you for posting.
I like this one, there is some strange electricity going on there inside.
Would be lovely if it gets some yoseki.
regards, Sunip Wink

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Post  Guest on Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:52 pm

Hi Stonener

I prefer the first photo-front.
Do you know what kind of stone it is?

Kind regards Yvonne

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Post  stonener on Wed Feb 08, 2012 1:39 pm

Thank You Yvonne, Why do you prefer 1st photo front?
This type is called Botryoidal Jadeite:
a sodium aluminum silicate mineral, with an ideal formula Na2(Al,Fe)2(Si4O12).
it occurs in a spectrum of colors and hues that vary from white to brown, orange to lilac.
it is very hard and heavy, from depths of 12 to 22 miles deep with a specific gravity of 3.3
if you look closely inside cave, two animal figures can be seen, "kissing dragon falls"
fits comfortably in the pawn of my hand 4x4.5x3.5" Dokutsu-Taki ishi ... Basketball



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enough yoseki already

Post  stonener on Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:16 pm

To live inside, Thanks Sunip for your thoughts,
baby skin smooth, botryoidal bumps are almost wore away,
as you say electricity can be felt when held in hand,
churning white water river inside turns to drop off gushing water fall.
dragon's nest in floating gardens of movie Avatar,
only problem is! wife can pick up and throw it at me... affraid



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Post  Guest on Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:23 pm

stonener wrote:Thank You Yvonne, Why do you prefer 1st photo front?
This type is called Botryoidal Jadeite:
a sodium aluminum silicate mineral, with an ideal formula Na2(Al,Fe)2(Si4O12).
it occurs in a spectrum of colors and hues that vary from white to brown, orange to lilac.
it is very hard and heavy, from depths of 12 to 22 miles deep with a specific gravity of 3.3
if you look closely inside cave, two animal figures can be seen, "kissing dragon falls"
fits comfortably in the pawn of my hand 4x4.5x3.5" Dokutsu-Taki ishi ... Basketball


Hi Stonener

This is very precise information about the kind of stone, many thanks Smile.
On the one side is the water running out, this is the most interesting side as far as I can see.

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very busy image

Post  stonener on Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:38 am

Yes I agree Yvonne
many things can be seen on this side,
birds, bats, dragons and clouds.
The back has a fly in view of cave dwellers inside,
more colors and a detailed mountainous top.
Having said this;
you do pointed out the one best thing, the falling water.
Thank You for sharing your thoughts... Basketball

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