Mugo Pine - Potential bonsai or Xmas Tree
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Mugo Pine - Potential bonsai or Xmas Tree
Hi Folks
I have the above Mugo Pine and am wondering if you think it is worth working on for a potential bonsai or keep it as a potted Xmas tree.
The bottom branch is too high at present, there is not a lot of movement in the trunk and there is not enough growth on branches near the trunk.
Options:
(1) Cut back branches in the autumn, be patient and hope I get back budding. Bend the trunk.
(2) Foreshortening the lower branches and add some bends in the trunk to reduce it's height and add some movement.
(3) Remove the top just above the second from bottom layer of branches and use one of these branches as the new apex. I would then remove the two thick bottom branches as there is too much gap before any foliage. There are three thin branches that could be used for the first left, right and back branches.
If the trunk was tilted to the left it would look like the trunk had more movement.
(4) Style it as a Literati. There are plenty of healthy branches at the top. This would eliminate the problem of trying to get branches to back bud or foreshortening them. I could put a number of twists and turns into the trunk, left to right and forward to back. Then thin out the top.
What do you think?
I have attached a photo of the tree as it is and one with the lower branches removed.
Fred
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I have the above Mugo Pine and am wondering if you think it is worth working on for a potential bonsai or keep it as a potted Xmas tree.
The bottom branch is too high at present, there is not a lot of movement in the trunk and there is not enough growth on branches near the trunk.
Options:
(1) Cut back branches in the autumn, be patient and hope I get back budding. Bend the trunk.
(2) Foreshortening the lower branches and add some bends in the trunk to reduce it's height and add some movement.
(3) Remove the top just above the second from bottom layer of branches and use one of these branches as the new apex. I would then remove the two thick bottom branches as there is too much gap before any foliage. There are three thin branches that could be used for the first left, right and back branches.
If the trunk was tilted to the left it would look like the trunk had more movement.
(4) Style it as a Literati. There are plenty of healthy branches at the top. This would eliminate the problem of trying to get branches to back bud or foreshortening them. I could put a number of twists and turns into the trunk, left to right and forward to back. Then thin out the top.
What do you think?
I have attached a photo of the tree as it is and one with the lower branches removed.
Fred
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fred blogg- Member
Re: Mugo Pine - Potential bonsai or Xmas Tree
Hey Fred,
Mugo Pines are very pliable and putting movement in the trunk should be pretty easy to do. Then you could decide whether an Informal Upright or a Literati style would be best. I have a few Mugo Pines and have been able to bend them very easily.
Tona
Mugo Pines are very pliable and putting movement in the trunk should be pretty easy to do. Then you could decide whether an Informal Upright or a Literati style would be best. I have a few Mugo Pines and have been able to bend them very easily.
Tona
Tona- Member
Re: Mugo Pine - Potential bonsai or Xmas Tree
Hi Fred
Yes, as it says Ton. Pine is very flexible. I would remove the red line at the spring and transplanted. Then the shape of the trunk of his own ideas. The shape of the branch of the new tree top. The shape of the branches on the basic shape of the tree. Such as virtual. Good luck and joy with the tree.
Gretings Pavel
Yes, as it says Ton. Pine is very flexible. I would remove the red line at the spring and transplanted. Then the shape of the trunk of his own ideas. The shape of the branch of the new tree top. The shape of the branches on the basic shape of the tree. Such as virtual. Good luck and joy with the tree.
Gretings Pavel
Pavel Slovák- Member
Re: Mugo Pine - Potential bonsai or Xmas Tree
Hi Pavel. This is the sort of material that most people would have access to. I'd love to see you turn this relatively uninspired material into a tree with character as shown by your sketch.
George- Member
Re: Mugo Pine - Potential bonsai or Xmas Tree
Hi Pavel
Thanks for your expertise and virtual. I will endeavour to to create something similar.
fred
Thanks for your expertise and virtual. I will endeavour to to create something similar.
fred
fred blogg- Member
Top heavy
Well, frankly, I would go looking for a mugo that is better suited for bonsai from the outset.
However.
Regardless of what you do with this plant, there is one thing I would like to point out, and that is the difference in vigour of growth in the top of the plant vs. its bottom. One of the challenges of bonsai, and especially pine bonsai, is making sure that a plant's top is not more vigorous than the bottom. If you look at your first picture, you can see how obviously your 'tree' is putting all its efforts into the top at the expense of the bottom by comparing the length of the candles in the two regions.
Trees want to grow at the top, because that is where the light is. But in most cases, we want our trees to grow evenly all over, and very often, especially in the development stage, more at the bottom than at the top, because that will encourage formation of a tapering trunk. To achieve that, we have to interfere with a plant's natural inclination to grow more at the top than at the bottom.
OK, so much for everyone's general edification.
However.
Regardless of what you do with this plant, there is one thing I would like to point out, and that is the difference in vigour of growth in the top of the plant vs. its bottom. One of the challenges of bonsai, and especially pine bonsai, is making sure that a plant's top is not more vigorous than the bottom. If you look at your first picture, you can see how obviously your 'tree' is putting all its efforts into the top at the expense of the bottom by comparing the length of the candles in the two regions.
Trees want to grow at the top, because that is where the light is. But in most cases, we want our trees to grow evenly all over, and very often, especially in the development stage, more at the bottom than at the top, because that will encourage formation of a tapering trunk. To achieve that, we have to interfere with a plant's natural inclination to grow more at the top than at the bottom.
OK, so much for everyone's general edification.
Reiner Goebel- Member
Re: Mugo Pine - Potential bonsai or Xmas Tree
Hi Reiner
I see the tree as challenge, a learning process, something to practice on. It cost me nothing so all I have to lose is time.
The term you are looking for where trees grow at the top is Apical Dominance. By reducing or removing the top I am going to, for a period, even out the vigour until the new apex I create takes over.
If I am not wrong you were in New Zealand at the National Bonsai Conference in 2003 with Craig Coussins?
Fred
I see the tree as challenge, a learning process, something to practice on. It cost me nothing so all I have to lose is time.
The term you are looking for where trees grow at the top is Apical Dominance. By reducing or removing the top I am going to, for a period, even out the vigour until the new apex I create takes over.
If I am not wrong you were in New Zealand at the National Bonsai Conference in 2003 with Craig Coussins?
Fred
fred blogg- Member
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