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Post  sixhunter Fri Jun 05, 2009 3:55 pm

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Im not very good with fukien, but does heavy chops like this cause die-back ?
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Post  stan Fri Jun 05, 2009 9:41 pm

Is this a tree you have chopped? if so maybe you should of asked the question before cutting it! I'm not 100% sure but i dont think it will back bud being evergreen and all, i could be wrong so forgive me if my information is incorrect. Maybe someone with a little more knowledge could chip in?"
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Post  JimLewis Fri Jun 05, 2009 9:53 pm

My! I could have chosen a couple of other places to chop -- but never there.

Good luck.
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Post  stan Fri Jun 05, 2009 9:55 pm

not my chosen place either. So what do you think are the chances of back budding Jim?

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Post  JimLewis Fri Jun 05, 2009 10:11 pm

I've never worked on one of these, so I couldn't say.
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Post  sixhunter Sat Jun 06, 2009 12:26 am

thanks guys, lol lesson learnt, the hard way Wink
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Post  NeilD3 Sat Jun 06, 2009 3:41 am

Just a bit of "advice".....for what it's worth.
For future reference, prior to making a chop, start thinking of airlayer's. That will delay your chop 1 year, but if you make good choice you'll have at least 2 decent pieces of stock to work with as opposed to just one, and in this case none.

Not to mention, starting with a very vigorous tree to begin with. This one looks like it's seen better days.

Goof luck.
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Post  Garykk Sat Jun 06, 2009 3:52 am

Couple of things. They don't seem to callus well so I would seal that wound for now. ouch....This tree appears to have been propagated from a cutting if you notice a tell-tale ring around the trunk above the root connection. I think it will bud out with care. Hide the saw for a while to be on the safe side. lol's

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Post  Rick Moquin Sat Jun 06, 2009 12:26 pm

More than likely she's going to sucker on you. As Jim stated an air layer would have been better. Fukiens are extremely funny creatures in my experience, sometimes they die back and sometimes they back bud, they are unpredictable. The good news is that they do back bud on old wood, but in this case I think she is going to sucker on you, but then again I may be wrong.
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Post  sixhunter Sat Jun 06, 2009 12:42 pm

Rick Moquin wrote:More than likely she's going to sucker on you. As Jim stated an air layer would have been better. Fukiens are extremely funny creatures in my experience, sometimes they die back and sometimes they back bud, they are unpredictable. The good news is that they do back bud on old wood, but in this case I think she is going to sucker on you, but then again I may be wrong.

thats wat i thought as well, i had one died on me before when i did abit of chop on it.
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Post  jrodriguez Sat Jun 06, 2009 2:17 pm

Hello,

First of all, where do you live? The reason i ask is because depending on the answer, my reply will vary. In a tropical setting, Fujian Cha, is everything but unpredictable. They grow like a weed. Please do protect the cut and place it under filtered sun. The tree should be moist, not damp, so be cautious of the watering schedule.

I too have made cuts like this to regrow the tops of mediocre material with decent nebari. If it dies, don't be discouraged! Bonsai is a test of patience.
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Post  sixhunter Sat Jun 06, 2009 2:34 pm

jrodriguez wrote:Hello,

First of all, where do you live? The reason i ask is because depending on the answer, my reply will vary. In a tropical setting, Fujian Cha, is everything but unpredictable. They grow like a weed. Please do protect the cut and place it under filtered sun. The tree should be moist, not damp, so be cautious of the watering schedule.

I too have made cuts like this to regrow the tops of mediocre material with decent nebari. If it dies, don't be discouraged! Bonsai is a test of patience.

hihi im living in singapore, currently i dont have anything to protect the cut, im not the least discouraged =) infact it gives me alot of experience, not learnt thru reading, but actual fact of experiencing it. I assumed ur a chinese ? since u can type in "han yu pin yin". But fukien isnt really my cup of tea, i find it to ramify the branches and as u mentioned unpredictable, they can bud anywhere along the branches and many times in areas which u dont want. I still prefer wrightia religiosa, now trying my hands on elm cheers
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Post  Rick Moquin Sat Jun 06, 2009 2:50 pm

jrodriguez wrote:Hello,

First of all, where do you live?

It would also prove beneficial if you updated your profile as well!
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Post  jrodriguez Sat Jun 06, 2009 4:20 pm

Sixhunter,

Maio! I am not Chinese, although a lot of my Taiwanese friends say i am a chinese trapped in a westeners body. Wrigthia is good, but try to grow Zhou niang tze (premna). It is quite rewarding. Also try Kimen Long su.

Jose
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Post  sixhunter Sun Jun 07, 2009 1:31 am

jrodriguez wrote:Sixhunter,

Maio! I am not Chinese, although a lot of my Taiwanese friends say i am a chinese trapped in a westeners body. Wrigthia is good, but try to grow Zhou niang tze (premna). It is quite rewarding. Also try Kimen Long su.

Jose

yea i would love to get premma, but i dont think singapore has any, long su aka ficus ?
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Post  jrodriguez Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:54 am

Sixhunter,

Long su is easy to grow. I have some friends in Singapore that can help you.

Jose
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Post  sixhunter Sun Jun 07, 2009 1:43 pm

jrodriguez wrote:Sixhunter,

Long su is easy to grow. I have some friends in Singapore that can help you.

Jose

cool, serious ? can u pm me their email or watsoever
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Post  Garykk Sun Jun 07, 2009 2:43 pm

hihi im living in singapore, currently i dont have anything to protect the cut, im not the least discouraged =) infact it gives me alot of experience, not learnt thru reading, but actual fact of experiencing it. I assumed ur a chinese ? since u can type in "han yu pin yin". But fukien isnt really my cup of tea, i find it to ramify the branches and as u mentioned unpredictable, they can bud anywhere along the branches and many times in areas which u dont want. I still prefer wrightia religiosa, now trying my hands on elm cheers[/quote]

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