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Crescent Fukien

Post  hiram on Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:51 am



Here is a Fukien I have been working since April of this year. Let me know what you think. Enjoy sunny

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Re: Crescent Fukien

Post  Todd Ellis on Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:08 am

I love it! Great composition IMHO! Is that a ceramic pot or coral or stone?
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Re: Crescent Fukien

Post  Guest on Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:14 am

Hi Hiram,

it is going to be a very nice tree.
but if you want an opinion, I think (if it were mine)- I'll remove the right side branch and keep a solid/compacted design. Trees tends to move or lean heavily on the stronger/dominant root areas. even in the photo try to cover the right side branch and you'll notice the difference. the pot I think is ok but not for the design I am referring.

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jun Smile

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Post  Todd Ellis on Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:21 am

I'll remove the right side branch and keep a solid/compacted design. Trees tends to move or lean heavily on the stronger/dominant root areas. even in the photo try to cover the right side branch and you'll notice the difference... jun Smile

I looked at the tree without the right side branch and think it looks better with the right side branch. The tree has and "ent" character to it. I don't think changing the angle of the trunk would help. I think Hiram found the right "lean" for this tree IMHO; unless he completely re-works the branches and grows a new top.
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Re: Crescent Fukien

Post  Guest on Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:50 am

It is just my opinion Todd.
I bet Hiram love the tree in his avatar so much. although it is just a drawing, this fukien tea can be turned into something similar to that tree. with this current design No focal point were made. Two dominant foliage pad competing and moving at different direction. The trunk together with the left side branch got a swift fluid movement and the right side sudden drop of the branch distract this character. well, this is just my humble opinion. The sudden drop of the right side branch doesn't tell the morphological adventure of the tree, Like I said, trees in nature tends to lean in the dominant position of the roots.
IMHO (again) the particular design of the tree above seems to be confused to be either going semicascade or left side slanting tree.


...but it is just me. If Hiram is happy I am glad for him. Just for the spirit of discussion.

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Re: Crescent Fukien

Post  Todd Ellis on Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:59 am

That's a good point Jun. I was looking at the empty space on the right side of the trunk, with and without the right branch. I can't really put it in words, but it seemed to miss something without the branch; perhaps reducing the foliage mass.... I sse what you mean by "or a semi cascade; as the right branch appears to be growing towards the rear of the tree.
Hiram, what are your thoughts about the design?

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Re: Crescent Fukien

Post  hiram on Wed Sep 21, 2011 12:57 am

Thank you Jun and Todd. I have been digesting what you both have recommended. I think it would make the flow much better, but I will slant it lower and more to the right. Here is a virtual.


Let me know if this what you meant. Thank you for you advice.

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Re: Crescent Fukien

Post  Guest on Wed Sep 21, 2011 1:18 am

looks more balance and much better Hiram.

But my thought was to totally remove the right side branch and grow the left side branch a bit longer to create more movement. since it is a virtual, You can try it. The current virt is better, but still looks too triangular and common IMHO.

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Re: Crescent Fukien

Post  Todd Ellis on Wed Sep 21, 2011 1:26 am

Hiram,
What is kind of pot is it in? What is it made of?
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Re: Crescent Fukien

Post  hiram on Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:36 am

Again thank you Jun and Todd. Jun I will try the virtual with more foliage on the left side. Todd the pot is a custom ceramic pot with an acid wash stain. I bought it from a gentleman in a show. They are very nice and they bring a new dimension to the total composition Very Happy .

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Re: Crescent Fukien

Post  hiram on Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:39 am

this is the tree before and my friend Allen Carver from Jupiter bonsai gave it to me as a challenge. So far this is what I have created it.


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Re: Crescent Fukien

Post  jrodriguez on Wed Sep 21, 2011 1:56 pm

Maybe you can invoke your bonsai gods!!! Just kidding!!!

I am not sure if this pot works well with the tree. The composition, when looked as a whole, is circular in form. This has to do with the fact that the wisual weight of the tree is in direct conflict with the pot. Maybe, a round container might help this tree a bit more.

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Jose Luis

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Re: Crescent Fukien

Post  tuyhoabob on Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:21 pm

Hirim,
I must agree with the first two comments however, it also creats a 'problem'. You have a very good looking tree, a safe design and, like many of us, fight the urge to 'go at it'. A tree should be designed with nature in mind but, that creates an awful lot of common, ordinary looking trees -- the ones with some 'drama' are the show-stoppers. Your FT has the potential to be one of those.
BTW: I like the pot.

Bob

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