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New project Monstrous Ribes

Post  Ed van der Reek on Fri Sep 09, 2011 12:34 pm

This is a new project of mine,a big monstrous Ribes.
The nebari from this tree is very impressive,and the trunk from this tree is 96cm in thickness.
This is for now the biggest tree I will work on the coming years,this year I prune it back and let it grow freely next year.
Gr Ed






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Post  Nik Rozman on Fri Sep 09, 2011 6:29 pm

This is a nice one Ed. I had a few of these in the past but have given up on them, because of their hollow branches. Mad It is a quite difficult plant to work on as a bonsai. Hope you succeed. Wink

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Post  Ed van der Reek on Sat Sep 10, 2011 11:24 am

Thank you Nik,I never work on this species yet but it is a challenge for me to make something from this difficult material:D
The thick foliage is crossing in the tree,and the only thing that is ok is the massive root-base and so I have to prune it drastically and leave it alone for a year to grow.
Gr Ed

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Post  Guest on Sat Sep 10, 2011 11:37 am

That really is a massive one you got there Ed.
Are you planning to keep the most of the main branches?
good luck on that powerful tree.

regards,
jun Smile

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Post  Ed van der Reek on Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:05 pm

Hi Jun,I will prune it drastically.
All the thick branches must be pruned because they will rot because they are hollow and with a thin lifeline on it,I will build this tree up with the new growth and so you get more fruit on it and of course flowers.
Next year I will leave this tree alone,and let it grow freely Very Happy
Gr Ed

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Post  Ed van der Reek on Thu May 16, 2013 11:34 pm

Update from this Ribes.
This is a very difficult species to work on because it is completely hollow inside,also in the new branches it will always be hollow.
The living parts of this tree are the middle and the left and right,the front has died and also the back this year.
I hope it will not rot any further,and this year I repotted in akadama to prevent that.
This tree is now 3 years in training,I changed also the angle of this tree.
I will wait to next winter to finish the work on the deadwood,I repot it this year and I give the tree time to recover from that.




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Post  Michal Malawski - PAB on Fri May 17, 2013 8:21 am

The trunk is amazing. A few years of ramification and it will be beautiful and compleete tree.
All the best
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Post  AnjaM on Sat May 18, 2013 1:30 pm

Hi Ed,

what kind of Ribes is this? I got one 6 or 7 years ago. It was a garden Form with white berrys. It never had a nebari like yours and fell apart into 15 pieces when I repotted it for the first time.

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Post  Ed van der Reek on Sun May 19, 2013 12:50 pm

hi Mike and Anja,thanks for the nice replies.
I don't know the kind of Rubes ribes specie it is[there are a lot],and it is surely a difficult specie to work on and you must pot it up in pure akadama and if you don't do this yes it will fall apart in pieces.
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Post  robatkinson on Thu May 23, 2013 10:33 pm

hi ed i like what you have done so far mate.
i have a large escallonia with also a lot
dead wood that is very soft and rots
easy i treat the wood every year with
a wood hardener and apply my lime
sulphur when dry this seems to slow
the rot quite a lot i hope this helps
regards rob. a. Very Happy

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Post  Ed van der Reek on Fri May 24, 2013 6:55 pm

Hi Rob,thanks mate.
I have already treat it with wood hardener that i bought from Kaizenbonsai,before repotting.
And Rob,when you apply lime sulphur afterwards does it look very white or not?
Gr Ed

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Post  robatkinson on Fri May 24, 2013 9:57 pm

hi ed.
what i do on decidious dead woods
depending on the shade of the wood
i tone down the lime sulphur with soot
or a touch of ink.
regards. rob. a.

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Post  sabamiki on Sat May 25, 2013 3:34 pm

I think that working of this type species is lost of time and money , sorry

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Post  Ed van der Reek on Sat May 25, 2013 4:06 pm

Why,don't you like challenges.
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Post  AnjaM on Sun May 26, 2013 4:43 pm

sabamiki wrote:I think that working of this type species is lost of time and money , sorry


Some times all you need is a short moment, for example when some delicate flowers appear you never would have recognised on garden stook. ;-)


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Post  sabamiki on Sun May 26, 2013 8:45 pm

of course Ed I like challenges but on this type species and similar always in the course of time comes regress not progress like shari on this tree , if this material was taxus it was outstanding and future material . I don't like deciduous bonsai with lots of shari and death parts , especial species with soft wood because in time dead parts must decay and wee cant stop this process . In "European" bonsai is a loot of bonsai such this and I think is not good way.
Of course AnjaM sometime blossom forgive a lot but if wee want good bonsai flowers is not enough Wink

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Post  Ed van der Reek on Sun May 26, 2013 10:20 pm

I like deciduous bonsai with lots of deadwood,and the deadwood is treated with wood-hardener and will not rot further if you repeat this two times a year.
I have several trees in development such as these species I work on,and i hope to prove to you and many others you can make stunning bonsai with the material you can access in your country.
Of course yamadori is always a pleasure to work on,I have them also in my collection.
Gr Ed

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