Finding a style for a 15yr Chinese Elm

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Finding a style for a 15yr Chinese Elm

Post  Neil Jaeger on Wed Sep 07, 2011 11:53 am

I bought this 3 years ago and i never really thought it would be much. It has a pretty bad trunk chop scar. But now i think we might have found a solution. (thanks Roy)





This is what we came up with. Going to have to repot at new angle in the spring.

Thanks for looking. Any comments welcome.

Neil

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Re: Finding a style for a 15yr Chinese Elm

Post  coh on Wed Sep 07, 2011 11:08 pm

Hi Neil,

Is this the tree we were talking about this weekend (at the open house)? It's got a lot of nice qualities despite the issues. Regarding the chop scar, are you referring to the area circled?



It's hard to see from the picture, but it looks like there are 2 major limbs coming out of that location - the one that comes forward and appears to be the next trunk segment, and a large branch that goes to the back and forms the back foliage pad/mass. Is that what is going on? if so, looks like a tough area to deal with. Is removing the back branch and carving the chop area to improve the transition an option? That back foliage mass looks pretty important so probably not. Can the chop area be carved to improve the transition while maintaining both branches?'

Otherwise, I like the tiered/layered look to the foliage masses that run from lower left to upper right....feel the tree might be a little tall and shortening the apex might help, like in the following virt. Also not sure about the lowest branch on the right, so I removed that too:



Hmm, now that I look at the two images, I'm not sure that lowering the top improves it...maybe if the remaining foliage masses were modified it would help. Anyway, just some beginners thoughts, for what it's worth.

Chris

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Re: Finding a style for a 15yr Chinese Elm

Post  drgonzo on Wed Sep 07, 2011 11:24 pm

Neil,

can you post a pic thats head on-so chris and I can see that slingshot and the scar a bit better, give me one with the wide side of the pot facing me I think I can get better perspective from that angle.

Its good material, the potential is there.
-jay


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finding a style 15 year old elm

Post  moyogijohn on Thu Sep 08, 2011 12:48 am

Your tree looks good to me..elms are my favorite... the scar is normal acording to all mine...can you carve for some taper to not let it be stright across?? i did 2 of mine that way.. the bottom branch is up to you i pruned mine off.. nice tree take care john

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Re: Finding a style for a 15yr Chinese Elm

Post  Neil Jaeger on Fri Sep 09, 2011 4:28 am

Thanks for the replys. Chris i dont know if i could remove the lower right branch, there is just to much neg. space. Here are a few more pictures.






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Re: Finding a style for a 15yr Chinese Elm

Post  Neil Jaeger on Fri Sep 09, 2011 4:30 am





Sorry about the blurry photos, the wife and i are looking for a new camara we need it.

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Re: Finding a style for a 15yr Chinese Elm

Post  MrFancyPlants on Fri Sep 09, 2011 1:26 pm

I think you just need to do some serious carving to induce taper. Most apparent from the third to last photo. Perhaps use a dremel and leave all the branches above that point for now to help it heal. you can refine the style above that point later on once it heals over. It is a nice tree and could be even better with some work and some time.

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Re: Finding a style for a 15yr Chinese Elm

Post  coh on Fri Sep 09, 2011 2:29 pm

Neil,

You're probably right about the negative space - but it's hard to really evaluate the overall tree because your photo of the new front seems to be looking down on the tree as opposed to looking straight at it. A better-placed photo would probably be very helpful, even if it isn't the best quality.

That's a gnarly-looking scar...I haven't had to deal with anything like that (yet) so cannot offer any other comments. What does Roy suggest?

Chris

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Re: Finding a style for a 15yr Chinese Elm

Post  Neil Jaeger on Sat Sep 10, 2011 1:27 pm

Thank you for your comments. Chris, the scar dosent really bother Roy he thought we could hide it with foliage. MrFancyPlants, i agree with you that some carving needs to be done. Its to bad the trunk just is to stright leading up to the scar. If the trunk had a little more movement it might not be so bad.

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