Doha-Ishi?

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Doha-Ishi?

Post  Hans Vleugels on Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:44 pm

A new stone found its way into my collection…


Front view


More from above


Other side


Bird's-eye view


Stone and daiza


Detail on the right side

The origin of this stone is Japan. Width: +/- 19,5 cm. Depth: +/- 4,5 cm. Height: +/- 3 cm.

Hard to put this stone in a suiseki classification, but personally I am thinking of a slope stone or doha-ishi. It suggests the rolling hills of a plain or a slope. Last picture shows a nice detail on the right side. I don’t know who made this dai, but he/she did a good job. It fits like a glove.

Kind regards from Belgium,

Hans

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Re: Doha-Ishi?

Post  Milan Kulhavy on Mon Sep 05, 2011 7:27 am

Hi Hans,

Nice suiseki.I think that the stone is a coastal area - Iwagata-ishi.

Best regards Milan.

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Re: Doha-Ishi?

Post  Guest on Mon Sep 05, 2011 8:05 am

Hi Hans

Your stone is very nice...and have a nice sice too.
I think this type of shape, is called coastalstone....a coast you see far away... Smile

Kind regards Yvonne

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Re: Doha-Ishi?

Post  Chris Cochrane on Mon Sep 05, 2011 5:48 pm

Hi Hans... I would recommend allowing the viewer to see what they wish in the landscape view stone. If you must have a Japanese classification, Milan & Yvonne offer a reasonable suggestion-- especially, I like Yvonne's suggestion of a distant coastline. Because the stone is low, it is arguably more an isogata-ishi ("shore stone") or more specifically araiso or araiso-ishi ("reef stone" with rocky shoals) that water flows over more than an iwagata-ishi ("coastal rock") that waves break against because of its high wall. This is probably Milan's impression of the coastal feature, too.


Last edited by Chris Cochrane on Thu Sep 08, 2011 5:17 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : corrected keying/spelling error as noted below by Hans)

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Re: Doha-Ishi?

Post  Bugeye on Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:43 pm

Nice stone. Wanna trade it for a cool Hut stone? Very Happy

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Re: Doha-Ishi?

Post  Chris Cochrane on Wed Sep 07, 2011 3:24 pm

Hi Bugeye... Please read the IBC Acceptable Use Policy (AUP) pinned as a sticky at the top of Announcements forum. IBC forums are not an exchange for buying, selling or trading items. It is best not to even tease about buying, selling or trading... and I appreciate you might have been speaking in appreciation rather than actually bargaining. Do not offer BUYING, SELLING or TRADING on forums for discussion, again. Members can contact other members, privately, using the personal messaging system; those conversations are private and would only be a problem if the recipient complained. The IBC Stone Forum/Gallery is for stone discussion.

Thanks for your understanding.

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Re: Doha-Ishi?

Post  Hans Vleugels on Thu Sep 08, 2011 7:57 am

Chris Cochrane wrote:Because the stone is low, it is arguably more an isogawa-ishi ("shore stone") or more specifically araiso or araiso-ishi ("reef stone" with rocky shoals)
Thanks for your explanation Chris. It sounds logical to me...

One more question; this isogawa-ishi, shouldn't that have to be isogata-ishi?

Regards,
Hans

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Re: Doha-Ishi?

Post  Chris Cochrane on Thu Sep 08, 2011 5:14 pm

Right, Hans!!! Thanks for the great catch. Gawa is "river," whereas gata is "shape, form." Isogata-ishi is correct for the "Shore Stone."

To preclude someone not recognizing my mis-keying, I will change it in the original post.

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Re: Doha-Ishi?

Post  Guest on Thu Sep 08, 2011 5:59 pm

HI Chris

It is not apropriate to alter words, in a reply, just because you a a moderator.....Please just leave it as it Is. It is OK for other people to know you are not perfect. Just relax.

Kind regards Yvonne

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Re: Doha-Ishi?

Post  Chris Cochrane on Thu Sep 08, 2011 6:30 pm

Don't worry, Yvonne, I noted the change in the edit and would do the same for anyone that asked... and have. In cases where they preferred I didn't note the change, I have followed the writer's preference where our archives can be improved. I am trying to help people learn, though I realize it is nearly impossible for a few.

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Re: Doha-Ishi?

Post  fiona on Fri Sep 09, 2011 7:03 pm

Yvonne Graubaek wrote: It is not apropriate to alter words, in a reply, just because you a a moderator.....
Sorry, was it not his own post that Chris altered? In that case his alteration of the word was perfectly acceptable, and was done as a member and poster, not as a moderator. I frequently alter my posts if I think anything has caused confusion or if I have mis-spelled a word. I can't see any difference with what Chris has done, especially when he has outlined the precise reason for doing so.


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Re: Doha-Ishi?

Post  Guest on Fri Sep 09, 2011 8:39 pm

Hi Fiona

I understand what you are saying....I just thought, Hans said the words, and that was enough.
I can understand from your words, everybody kan change, everything they say. I may want to use this from time to time in the future, but it could make the next reply hard to understand, and so on.

In that light my reply to Chris was not right....but not long ago, he gave me hes topic, and did not remove or change it, even when I asked.

Kind regards Yvonne

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