Exposing the deadwood

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Exposing the deadwood

Post  jolz on Tue Aug 30, 2011 12:14 pm

Hello IBC,
Here's my first ever Pemphis found ten years ago in a dumpsite near the seashore. The tree was covered with rubbish wherein the villagers in the area burned them from time to time. I was lucky enough to salvage the tree, the tip has already developed some charcoals when I dug it. After cleaning and training the tree here it is now. The first pic (sorry, a little bit blurry)show a dense folliage, and the second one, after I reduced the number of branches on the right to show off the deawood. Comments will always be appreciated.
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Jolz




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Post  fiona on Tue Aug 30, 2011 12:21 pm

Wish there was "rubbish" like that on our dumpsites. All we ever get is discarded shopping trolleys (carts), things that smell extremely unpleasant and things that are probably best left uninvestigated.

Good find and good work so far and please let us see its future development.

My only comment is that I myself would prefer it without the deadwood at the right (as you look at it) or at least without being so prominent. To me it seems to break the balance of the tree as I like it with an element of "tension" towards the left. Just MVHO though.

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Post  jolz on Tue Aug 30, 2011 1:21 pm

Fiona,
I'm thinking about removing that deadwood on the right for a long time now, but I don't want to drastically do it and regret later. You are right, the balance is not quite ok but still I'm figuring out where to cut it, somewhere in the middle, or the direct connection to the trunk? Let's have a poll here, majority decision will prevail. I'll just wait for other experts comments.
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Post  Ka Pabling on Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:16 pm

Hi Jolz,

I think you have to program and rewire the branches first, remove the branches that are not necessary,then see how it looks. If ever you are going to remove the deadwood it should be the one protruding in the right.
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Post  Rob Kempinski on Tue Aug 30, 2011 3:15 pm

I agree with Ka about the rewire, but the deadwood on the right is what makes this tree distinctive. I'd keep it. Breaking rules reveals artistry!

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Post  MrFancyPlants on Tue Aug 30, 2011 3:22 pm

I vote for leaving it all there. It echoes the deadwood that is closer to the trunk nicely.

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Post  JimLewis on Tue Aug 30, 2011 3:50 pm

Maybe????????


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Post  AdamG on Tue Aug 30, 2011 4:19 pm

JimLewis wrote:Maybe????????

I like that.

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Post  mike page on Tue Aug 30, 2011 4:20 pm

KKEP IT!

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Post  jrodriguez on Tue Aug 30, 2011 4:31 pm

fiona wrote:Wish there was "rubbish" like that on our dumpsites. All we ever get is discarded shopping trolleys (carts), things that smell extremely unpleasant and things that are probably best left uninvestigated.

Good find and good work so far and please let us see its future development.

My only comment is that I myself would prefer it without the deadwood at the right (as you look at it) or at least without being so prominent. To me it seems to break the balance of the tree as I like it with an element of "tension" towards the left. Just MVHO though.

In the future, you should reposition the branches on the right to create wind effect and to better construct a convincing branch and foliage structure that blends well with the dead wood. The jin and shari are splendid, very representative of bantigue trees. Because bantigue grows near the sea shore, "imbalance" is part of their nature. Most Bantigue trees in nature are flattened, have multiple crowns and spread horizontally. The current jin and shari are well positioned and further evidence this fact. I am sure that some minor modifications will raise the quality of this tree even more. You have all the branches you need. It is a very nice tree.

Warm regards, Selamat!!!

Jose Luis


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Post  Jesse McMahon on Tue Aug 30, 2011 5:05 pm

i like the deadwood! i guess my virtual is someplace in the middle (and nowhere near as clean) but i think you could almost reduce those knobs on the top of the deadwood to the right to enhance the balance of things. something like this.


just an idea that i didn't see presented yet. very nice tree!
Jesse

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Post  dave steventon on Tue Aug 30, 2011 7:49 pm

really nice tree i like Jims virt regarding the deadwood
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Post  fiona on Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:00 pm

jrodriguez wrote: In the future, you should reposition the branches on the right to create wind effect and to better construct a convincing branch and foliage structure that blends well with the dead wood. The jin and shari are splendid, very representative of bantigue trees. Because bantigue grows near the sea shore, "imbalance" is part of their nature. Most Bantigue trees in nature are flattened, have multiple crowns and spread horizontally. The current jin and shari are well positioned and further evidence this fact. I am sure that some minor modifications will raise the quality of this tree even more. You have all the branches you need. It is a very nice tree.
A fair point and of course I don't have the benefit of seeing trees such as this in the wild - not until my winning lotto ticket comes up that is.

Is it right to assume that in your climate this tree will grow fairly quickly, so developing new and/or better branch structure as Jose Luis suggests is much more possible much more quickly than it would be in colder areas?

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Post  jolz on Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:58 am

Good day IBC,
I'm posting the latest picture of this tree again after some refinings were done on the branches, more secondary and tertiary branches were removed and then rewiring was done. I also included the back view of this tree for all to see and decide if ever I really have to make some adjustments on the deadwood. As always, comments are most welcome and appreciated.
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Post  Ka Pabling on Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:09 am

Hi Jolz,

Good job, keep all the deadwood.

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Post  totomng on Wed Aug 31, 2011 3:06 pm

great tree jolz!
nice nebari,and trunk movement! removing the protruding deadwood on the right side might give your tree more harmony on its trunk line..removing some more branches to give way for more details of the branches and foliage pads in the future is all i can say! im not an expert and in the end it is always up to you because it is your composition Very Happy
regards and godbless

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