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Odd little pot

Post  Russell Coker on Mon Jul 25, 2011 3:54 am

While I was In Japan, a friend of my boss gave me an odd little pot. I've never seen anything like it until Morten posted pictures of his trip to Japan. The same pot is in his Mansei-en pictures, and he let me repost it here...



And here's my pot...





The pot is small, sit in the palm of your hand shohin size. It has a small chop, but I think it's too faint to read. The unusual thing is the 2 different clays that make up the top lip part, and the bottom.

Does anyone know anything about this pot?

Thanks, R

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Re: Odd little pot

Post  Mitch Thomas on Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:38 pm

Russell
Man you have a uncanny ability to collect some outstanding pots. I don't think I have ever seen one with two different types of clay, Thats Wild !
Mitch YBF

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Re: Odd little pot

Post  Russell Coker on Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:28 am

I haven't seen anything like it either, Mitch, until Morten's thread. Needless to say I was pretty shocked. I wish I knew something - anything - about it. I'll get out the magnifying glass and see if I can make out the chop. It's about 1/4 inches square.

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Re: Odd little pot

Post  Kakejiku on Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:40 pm

Take a picture of the chop. I can not reasearch history, but may be able to give some readings for the name if it is not in Reisho style.

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Post  Ryan B on Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:59 pm

Yeah, post the chop. If it's real light and an indented chop, rub a little cream of tartar into the impression for better photo visibility(a Smoke tip)

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Re: Odd little pot

Post  Russell Coker on Thu Jul 28, 2011 8:07 pm

Well, my camera sucks, so I'll have to see if I can find someone to take the picture. The cream of tartar did help make it more visible, the problem is that the chop is about 1/4 x 1/4 inch square!

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Re: Odd little pot

Post  Ryan B on Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:47 pm

Hello all. I already emailed Russell the info, but it could be useful to post it here.
The pot is Chinese and its around 40-50 years old. Its mad by a kiln the Japanese call KoShoBai(If my Kanji translation is correct). Retail around $300, so it was a very nice gift! A couple more pics follow of the chop and pot.
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Post  drgonzo on Fri Dec 16, 2011 8:09 pm

It looks like a chalice that was filled with hot chocolate and then someone dropped a stone into it and the resulting "plop" was caught by a high speed camera and then freeze framed..

I love it!
-Jay

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Re: Odd little pot

Post  Ryan B on Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:08 pm

Drgonzo,
Indeed it does! I think I see marshmallow in there too!

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Re: Odd little pot

Post  Russell Coker on Sat Dec 17, 2011 12:28 am

Ryan, thanks for the detective work! I'm glad to know it's such a great little pot. I've always loved it and I'm really glad to know something about it. It was given to me by my benefactor's friend who was in the Yakusa. Mob ties or not, he and his gang produced some of the finest satsuki bonsai I've ever seen. They had very expensive taste in antique pots and stands and I always looked forward to seeing what they'd bring to shows. They were always kind and generous with me, and I remember them fondly. He had a son my age, Tsukasa, and one year I brought him a bottle of Bacardi 151 and Southern Comfort back to Japan after returning home for Christmas. Maybe that's how I got this pot...

Anyway, Jay, it does look like chocolate. Hopefully, one day I'll have some great little trees to go in all of these great little pots I have!

R

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Re: Odd little pot

Post  NeilDellinger on Sat Dec 17, 2011 5:49 pm

Russ,
Thats an awesome pot. Very cool!

Thanks for posting.

Ryan,
Amazing you can ID all this stuff so quickly.


Thanks for posting.

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Post  Ryan B on Sat Dec 17, 2011 6:43 pm

Thanks Neil, Russell,
It won't be long at all before everyone will be able to ID pots. I'm working on uploading my entire Hanko and Rakkan database to my blog pages, should have it up before January 7. While the bonsaipotplaza page is incredibly helpful, it's also woefully incomplete and inaccurate!

Ryan
http://japanesebonsaipots.net/

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Post  Bugeye on Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:53 pm

Ryan,
Can't wait to see it. I have some pots that are not listed on there. I am hoping you will have
the answers.
Rob

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Re: Odd little pot

Post  Ryan B on Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:12 pm

Rob,
Until I get it up and running, shoot me a private message and I'll see if I can't get your pots IDed for you!
Ryan
http://japanesebonsaipots.net/

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Re: Odd little pot

Post  Russell Coker on Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:27 pm



Hell with the private message, let's SEE them here!

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Re: Odd little pot

Post  Ryan B on Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:49 pm

Thatd be fine too! Just mentioned PM because I don't want to put my email on the public forum...no telling what kind of cranks I'd start getting email from...I'm looking at you Russell....

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Re: Odd little pot

Post  Russell Coker on Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:39 am



Yes, well, it's sort of like feeding a stray cat. The next thing you know, you own a cat! (or the cat owns you).

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Post  Ryan B on Tue Dec 20, 2011 3:01 am

Dont even talk to me about cats Russ! I have way too many because the F-ing feral kittens kept pooping in my turface/litter mix! So I had to bring em in to keep em away from the trees! Anybody want a cat!

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Post  Ryan B on Wed Dec 28, 2011 3:20 am

Heres an update on this Odd Little Pot of Russells. it appears I may have severely undervalued the pot!
If youre not up date with Yen-Dollar currency....Multiply by .013
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Re: Odd little pot

Post  Russell Coker on Wed Dec 28, 2011 3:24 am

Sweet, I'm bringing it inside and putting it in a cabinet. 2,000$, crap!

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Re: Odd little pot

Post  NeilDellinger on Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:39 am

Nice one Russell, very fortunate!

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Post  Poink88 on Wed Dec 28, 2011 12:18 pm

Congrats!!! I would save that and keep it safe too if it were mine...or liquidate and buy more trees!!! LOL

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Re: Odd little pot

Post  Dave Murphy on Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:16 pm

Russell Coker wrote:Sweet, I'm bringing it inside and putting it in a cabinet. 2,000$, crap!

Made my day (and yours, I'm sure). Congrats Russell.

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Post  Russell Coker on Wed Dec 28, 2011 2:50 pm

Poink88 wrote:Congrats!!! I would save that and keep it safe too if it were mine...or liquidate and buy more trees!!! LOL


Hmmm...... That's not a bad idea. God knows shohin ain't my thang....


Thanks Neil and Dave, and of course Ryan!

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Re: Odd little pot

Post  Guest on Wed Dec 28, 2011 3:14 pm

Hi russel

Remember who gave you the pot Smile ....I would not dare even think about selling a gift from them...10 years ago, I was 2 meters away from 2 of theese guys in expensive suits, they were handling/talking to the floormanager in Mitsukoshi, Fukuoka. They scared the s... out of me.

Kind regards Yvonne

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